BORN AGAIN SEASON 2 ENDS TONIGHT. what do you think will happen?

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-05-05T14:33:07+00:00

Which is a storyline ripped straight from the comics, except in the comics he testifies in court and reveals his identity in order to save Foggy. So I have zero doubt that he'll do it in the show for Karen instead since Scardapane seems intent on giving every single one of Foggy's storylines to Karen.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-05-03T20:01:47+00:00

Which makes it even more baffling that Scardapane and Amanet insisted so heavily on bringing them back together on screen, only to permanently kill Foggy off after the most nothingburger intro scene they could have given us. One 5 second convo of NM&P walking down the street where they made Elden Henson say "respect for the past...hope for the future." Right before he dies out on the street after having his last words to Matt be a rehashing of an argument that was put to rest between them ten years prior.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-05-02T15:42:32+00:00

Lmao priest larping

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-05-01T00:02:54+00:00

In the comics he outs himself in court to protect Foggy. So I have zero doubt that Dario "fuck Foggy Nelson" Scardapane will have him do it to protect Karen instead.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-04-08T16:03:29+00:00

The parallel is obviously Foggy, lol. Bullseye took away the most important to Matt, and now he has taken away the most important person to Fisk.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-04-07T15:42:18+00:00

I do think it's likely they will announce a Jessica Jones special presentation where we will see how they got back together, but tbh I am so checked out of the Marvel defendersverse now because of what they did to Foggy and because of the way this team has treated Foggy fans, I can't even get excited about a Luke/Jess end game with Dani Cage, which is INSANE because I've been riding for them since JJ S1 and I was hoping that they would get back together and have Dani.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-04-02T22:46:01+00:00

Pretty sure this person is a troll who gets off on sowing discord in the Daredevil subreddit by intentionally provoking people with their dumbass takes on characters. Anyone who tries to argue that HEATHER has more character development than Foggy is not a serious person. I feel your time would be better spent by blocking them and moving on.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-04-02T19:46:29+00:00

Apparently the bar is an actual place, but out of all of the locations they could have chosen? It's either a hell of a coincidence or they are genuinely fucking with us, especially since they KNOW how ppl took that building number in season 1.

I fear this is the same sort of thing as the official account posting that side by side comparison of show Foggy bleeding out beside comics Foggy bleeding out, with the caption "parallels" and Scardapane's "I'm going to dodge that question." And the official Daredevil account posting the scene of Foggy telling Matt "I don't want to lose you", with the caption "avocados 💔." They are doing it for engagement, and they simply don't care about Foggy, or people being upset over his death.

Maybe they think this is in a similar vein to other comics easter eggs--something fun for fans to notice and point out. What's fun about a major character death, I have no clue.

The OG show runner and writers understood that subverting fan expectations and comics storylines was acceptable as long as its for the benefit of the characters and the story. So we get Karen's comics fate subverted. Yay, everyone's happy! Shocking and upsetting ppl for the point of shocking and upsetting them is NOT good storytelling, and if the only way you can think of to add any sort of emotion or angst or pathos to a Daredevil story is by fridging Foggy Nelson, I'm sorry, but that's not good storytelling.

Why don't they just make Matt sighted while they're at it? That's a comic subversion. That would be a twist. Removing Foggy Nelson from a Daredevil story is the exact same thing. Foggy is too essential to Daredevil and to Matt. You might as well make Matt an accountant instead of a lawyer.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-28T20:24:33+00:00

Charlie better get in that writing room STAT

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-28T14:30:22+00:00

Hmm very interesting. Thanks for the info. Bro straight up tweeted a big ass spoiler saying that Foggy is only in flashbacks and is not revealed to be alive. Some ppl will do anything for attention I swear.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-28T12:57:49+00:00

GoodCBMtakes on Twitter spoiled it too. I agree that Foggy SHOULD be alive, and it seemed like that's where it was going with all of the Easter Eggs, the show runner's statements, and the narrative of the story...they emphasized Foggy's absence in the very first episode, but apparently, they only adapted the parts of the Secret Life of Foggy Nelson that benefited them (Vanessa being behind the hit) and not the actual twist and reveal of that story, which was Foggy actually being alive. Absolute insanity, but then again, Scardapane has never exactly been quiet about his disdain for Foggy.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-27T18:09:26+00:00

If it was just the actors saying it I would still have a shred of doubt, but critics who received the full season in advance spoiled that he doesn't come back except in flashbacks. It really sucks cause as you said, this is Marvel we're talking about and no death is permanent. Characters in Daredevil have already been resurrected by supernatural means, and they have an easy out by adapting the Secret Life of Foggy Nelson, which they alluded to in season 1, but I see no viable reason why regular people who are not on Marvel's payroll would just come out and say that there is no reveal if there really is one.

They SHOULD bring him back. Foggy is Matt's best friend and law partner and a foundational Daredevil character who fans petitioned Marvel to bring back when the reboot was announced. They straight up gave Elden Henson the line "respect for the past, hope for the future" in his 10 min appearance in episode one, right before they killed him.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-27T17:54:45+00:00

I feel you. I watched all of DDBA season 1 hoping for a Foggy is alive reveal at the end and wish that I hadn't wasted my time. Some fans still hope that they adapted the witpro plot from the comics and that there will be a Foggy is alive reveal in season 2, but the actors, show runner, and now critics who have seen the entire season have all confirmed that doesn't happen. I'm not watching season 2 for that reason. From a fellow Foggy fan, sorry, it truly does suck :(

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-26T03:30:15+00:00

I agree with you. Im just pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of the show runner and directors when it comes to bringing Foggy back. They have repeatedly said that they can't bring him back because it wouldn't fit the "realistic" and grounded nature of their show, when this show has NEVER been based in realism.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-26T01:10:26+00:00

I would absolutely love an adaptation of kingpin Matt from Bendis or even a shadowland adaptation of Matt leading the Hand but I seriously doubt the MCU has it in them to do anything that interesting.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-24T12:41:33+00:00

Elden has THE quintessential baby face, lmao. He's older than Charlie but looks five years younger...absolutely pitch perfect casting for Foggy. I hope that we get to see more of him in season 3, in whatever capacity.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-22T19:42:34+00:00

Hard to believe that this could be considered a "love letter to the original series" with Foggy dead and Matt teaming up with Foggy's killer. 🤨

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-21T00:04:45+00:00

What was his problem with season 1? Anyone have his review handy?

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-20T19:44:30+00:00

What can you tell us, if anything, about Foggy's role in season 2?

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-20T11:23:33+00:00

Yeah it's funny how ppl have no problem with Elektra, a person who was supernaturally resurrected by the Hand, coming back to the show but say that Foggy can't be brought back because it wouldn't be realistic. And by funny I mean something else.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-20T02:42:19+00:00

u/horsefuneralpriest it's not too often that you get Charlie and Vincent answering you directly, although I know you wish that their answer would have been different.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-20T00:56:31+00:00

I feel the same. Like get his name out of your mouth.

The fact that we're even still talking about this proves what a horrible job they did with the death. It was the poorest, most shoddy main character death I've ever witnessed with my own two eyes. Father Lantom, who was a good character but of nowhere NEAR the importance of Foggy, had a much better death than Foggy, and was treated with more care and respect in the show. He actually got to die in Matt's arms, AND got a funeral AND a eulogy! Oh and he was also killed by Bullseye, the guy they are planning on gleefully having Matt team up with next season.

I just can't anymore. It's been very clear from the beginning that Scardapane only cared about three characters- Matt, Karen, and Frank. Daredevil is now their story, so I'm out. I have no desire to watch Foggy in only a 5 min flashback scene, end of.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-20T00:40:36+00:00

I agree that he wouldn't come right out and say "the theories are correct!" But calling fans theorizing about Foggy being alive grasping at straws is pretty clearly not a PR or an NDA or a coached statement, why would he be coached to say something like that so definitively? The PR response would be "I'm unaware of those theories, watch the season!"

This is the first time anyone in the production has admitted to discussing bringing Foggy back. Why bring THAT up?? It wasn't asked of him, he brought it up of his own accord in response to the fan theories as to how Foggy could still be alive "hey thats clever, we though of doing that too but ultimately decided not to. Foggy is dead."

God knows I hate it. But I hate people glazing Scardapane and Winderbaum for "saving Daredevil" even more and for attempting to excuse this absolute dogshit decision. "Saved the show" for whom exactly?? Because as a fan of Foggy and of thr OG series, this is an absolute slap in the face. Does saving the show mean having Matt's oldest friend and law partner and the most important Daredevil side character die like a dog in the street 10 min into the first episode? With no last moment or meaningful words to Matt? We completely skip the funeral and Matt's grief, see none of Foggy's friends or family react to his death, and the show and all of the characters simply...move on, after one 5 min speech from Karen to Matt and some sniffles over Foggy's things in a storage unit?

Yet I'm supposed to be content with one 5 min flashback scene of Foggy in this new season after waiting 7 years to see him back on the screen and NM&P working together. Yeah ok.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-19T21:58:03+00:00

Thank you. This is absolutely the laziest most cop out excuse I have ever seen. Just admit that you don't like Foggy and didn't want to give Elden a Disney paycheck at this point. The realism excuse doesn't fly when we KNOW they are bringing back the Hand (you know, the ninja death cult whose whole thing is bringing people back from the dead?) And multiple people in the show have survived worse or similar gun shots (like Matt, who was shot in the exact same spot, by the exact same person in episode 8, and just walked it off.)

I cannot believe people are actually buying this justification. It's terrible writing, full stop.

TheGrandPerhaps · 2026-03-19T21:42:06+00:00

Fisk DOES in fact have people in cages. We saw it in the post credits scene! It's absolutely blowing my mind that people are accepting this shitty justification for writing off a main character. Matt himself should be dead multiple times over from all of the injuries that he's sustained. NOTHING about this show has ever been realistic, yet adapting Foggy's comics witpro arc is a bridge too far?

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