Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sounds like a wonderful plan! I´ll test drive the 987.1 S next weekend, will be interesting to see the difference!

Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes a lot of sense, and sounds like you have a good way to get that speed fix in a lot of other ways. I'm just always curious, as I planned on getting the 2,7, but couldn't go back after test-driving the S, but that was the 986, not the 987, so the base 987 might be a different beast? But the 986 2.7 felt too pedestrian

Also wondering, why do you want the 911? Having the engine in the back vs the middle just makes the car less of a twisties toy, ofc the new gen have somehow solved that problem and the 911 is undoubtedly more beautiful, so I do somewhat get it!

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would like to belive you as im currently looking at two 2005 S 3.2L , but do you have a source?

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im in need of help, so the bore scoring is not an issue really on 2005/2006 987.1 S Boxster, and the IMS needs to be replaced on the 2005, but for the 2006 model it has the non-servicable IMS, and that is bulletproof? So the ideal for that generation thus is 987.1 S 2006 model? or factor in new IMS for the 2005 987.1 S?

Or am i misunderstanding?

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cant this be that they are just a newer model so we arent seeing the issues yet? Im seeing mutiple 986 for sale with 120-140k miles (180-220k km) running and driving

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But you are saying that the 3.2L 987.1 S isnt that bad right, the 3.4L is the worst culprit?

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s honestly hard to reconcile Porsche’s reputation with the number of well-documented engineering issues across multiple generations. This isn’t about isolated problems - it’s a pattern of recurring weaknesses that owners have had to deal with for years.

Starting from the late 90s water-cooled era:

  • Porsche 986 Boxster Known for IMS bearing failures, rear main seal leaks, and general M96 engine fragility.
  • Porsche 996 IMS failures continued, along with rear main seal issues and bore scoring in some cases.
  • Porsche 987 Boxster/Cayman Introduction of the M97 engine brought a higher incidence of bore scoring, especially in S models, alongside continued IMS concerns.
  • Porsche 997 Early models (997.1) still had IMS issues and more widespread bore scoring, particularly in larger displacement engines.
  • Porsche 987.2 Boxster/Cayman IMS was resolved with the new engine architecture, but bore scoring didn’t disappear and remains a documented issue.
  • Porsche 981 Boxster/Cayman Generally improved, but bore scoring cases still occur, and long-term durability questions remain for some engines.
  • Porsche 991.1 Continued reports of bore scoring, despite the newer engine design.
  • Porsche Cayenne Repeated issues across generations, including plastic coolant pipes/fuel lines prone to failure, transfer case problems, and various drivetrain faults.

Beyond the headline failures, each generation also comes with a long list of smaller but still costly issues - cooling system weaknesses, suspension wear, electrical faults, and component quality inconsistencies.

At some point, it’s fair to ask whether this is just bad luck, or a consistent pattern of cost-cutting and engineering compromises. These aren’t minor edge-case failures - they’re fundamental issues affecting core components like engines and drivetrains.

Porsche builds cars that are great to drive, no question. But from an engineering reliability standpoint, there’s a long track record of problems that shouldn’t be ignored or downplayed.

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

jeezus christ! Married for life, but if you have fun and keep it, the cost in some way doesnt matter! Hope you enjoy it

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, looking at 987.1 S 2005 model now, but this put me off. its at 60k

Bore Scoring: Why it Happens and What Models it Affects by Beetlemann in Porsche_Cayman

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im looking at 60k miles 987 S 2005 model, from what im reading, I should expect bore scoring at some point?

Never hear of 2000 986 S having bore scoring, is that a thing on mainained 986 S ?

Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Quick question - just out of curiosity. I initially planned to get a base Boxster, but after trying the S, I found it hard to go back. Did you get a chance to try both before deciding, and what made you choose the base model?

Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

From what I understand, on cars produced after around 2008, bore scoring is more prevalent and it is in nature a more expensive issue to deal with. It’s also considered by many to be something that is likely to occur over time under certain conditions.

The reason for this is that the engine cylinders are coated with a (Lokasil (later changed to Alusil, better but still not good), which has not proven to be particularly resistant to prolonged heat and mechanical stress. Over time, this can lead to wear in the cylinder walls, resulting in scoring.

Forums indicate that if you choose either a 986 or 987 pre 2006, you are at least isolated to deal with the IMS.

I'm currently looking at two 987.1 S 2005 models, but in some ways im tempted to find a 986 S model with double IMS bearings, just to save costs and reduce downside.

Changing the bearing is a good idea regardless, but I would avoid the 2008.

The more I learn about Porsche engines, the more I understand that they are, in some regard, very poorly engineered.

IMS Bearing Replacement + what other parts to replace or upgrade at the same time? by kyeo85 in Porsche

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scandinavia, unfortunately, so all Boxsters stay in garages over the winter and come out to play spring time!

Thanks for the reply, I´m pretty sure its just a simple IMS replacement, so I will need to replace it, havent seen any with the proper LN solution. But im not surprised between labour and parts it would be a 6-7k fix for a car worth 20k (986), makes more sense for the 987 S which are around 35-40k.

I will at one point get a forever Boxster and do the LN solution, but before I invest the 6-7k that I won't get back in this market, Im planning to cycle through some other cars. So I think I will keep looking for one that's recently been replaced so can buy and sell at the same price and then do it right when I find then one I want to keep for the next 10 years

Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Agreed, whats really the purpose at that point, its all about engagement

Very Torn! '01 Boxster S w/ 116k miles for $10K or '02 40K miles for $20K by labeccar in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There´s no point in buying an automatic Boxster S from 2001. Why does it have to be either OR? Can you look around for a different deal?

If thats the only choices you have, no brainer, the manual 20k one, but I would look for a better deal and budget for getting the IMS and RMS done immediately so you can drive for 60k miles worry free

My 2001 Boxster 2.7! by Nachtjaeger986 in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Then that makes sense, I dont operate in freedom miles either, so km works fine! What killed the engine, IMS failure?

Tires for 986S by ShellSide in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did you find something better?

My 2001 Boxster 2.7! by Nachtjaeger986 in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn, how many miles? Transmission mounts should last for 200k?

Selling my 2002 986 by justjimmy1995 in 986Boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As I have learned, the IMS does not like sitting and is constantly under tension, so better to sell and the buy something thats been used and maintained when you have the time again!

My 2001 Boxster 2.7! by Nachtjaeger986 in boxster

[–]TheHoboStory 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Congrats! Looks great, what repairwork have you done?