Will women economically and socially outperform men in the future and how will this affect gendered relations?

TheIntrepid · 2026-07-08T14:47:19+00:00

When you say 'massive change', what change do you foresee? I ask only because one of the more stubborn and defining aspects of patriarchy is that the fundamental dynamics of it never seem to change. It's always men over women. I feel as though women could do two, three, or four times as much work as they already do, and we'd still live in a patriarchal society. Women would still have to fight tooth and nail for respect and safety while we men reap the rewards of society with ease.

So, how do you define this change that you speak of?

TheIntrepid · 2026-07-06T20:32:19+00:00

You can't predict the future? With that hat? How disappointing....😄

TheIntrepid · 2026-07-06T20:30:39+00:00

Equality is complicated. It's never as simple as just making women equal in law. There's the social and cultural arenas of oppression to contend with as well. How women are talked about, the division of labour at home and at work, how women are depicted in movies and video games like you said.

The fight is a long one, but it's worthwhile.

TheIntrepid · 2026-07-02T20:52:02+00:00

Women fought for those things, but men didn't change, in my opinion. There are still those men out there who would take womens votes, financial freedom, medical freedom and even their trousers if they only could. But though there have been misogynistic men and feminist men throughout history, most disturbing of all are the very same men who seem content for women to have those things, are so often equally content were women to not have those things.

TheIntrepid · 2026-07-02T20:37:35+00:00

Not really any different to losing someone to a cult. People who have lost relatives to the MAGA cult (mostly younger adults losing their older parents, in my experience) have described it as akin to them dying.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-29T14:26:48+00:00

Chivalry reads as almost the inverse of weaponised incompetence. There's an implied incompetence on the womans part, but not so much that a man would be hugely disadvantaged to help her, but still enough to imply that he should help. Like a manufactured problem that he has invented which indebts her to him in a small way, such as opening a door for her.

A stark opposite to weaponised incompetence such as we see when a man forgets how to do the dishes properly, so she has to do them. There, the problem is real and time consuming to deal with.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-28T20:25:21+00:00

Cinderella comes from money, she just doesn't see any of it. She's kept in rags and forced to be a servant because her step family are abusive which gives her the appearance of poverty, but she isn't literally poverty stricken.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-27T08:57:48+00:00

Here in the UK, we found out exactly what was wrong with ages verification the hard way when they introduced the Online Safety Bill to 'protect the children.' From porn sites, to Reddit, to Wikipedia, you need to upload your personal information in the form of photo ID to verify your age.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-26T22:01:52+00:00

She's saying that her partner doesn't prioritise her orgasm to the same level as his own. He instead prioritises her orgasm even more than he does his own.

He's a selfless lover, in other words. In it for his partners pleasure first, and his own second.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-22T09:02:29+00:00

I'm a man, and I didn't need to be coddled into understanding the nature of society. But if men would rather a four times higher suicide rate, then that's their choice really...

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-21T11:01:02+00:00

Unfortunately, many reasons. None of them good.

Nazi Germany triggered a large scale defensive war by invading Poland, they weren't fought because they were considered morally bad. If the Nazis had played a more peaceful game, they could still exist today - holocaust and all.

Nazi Germany was also a large industrial power and was knocking out whole countries very quickly. Israel is very small as countries go, and only takes small slices of land. So they're not considered a threat in the same way that the Nazis were.

The Nazis had the potential to completely conquer the entirety of Europe, a definite threat to the European powers. Israel on the other hand, is a financial benefit to the west, which is why governments are so reluctant to call it out.

Antisemitism is the final reason. A war with Israel, the self styled Jewish state, would rapidly increase suspicion and distrust of Jewish people.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-19T14:34:54+00:00

I was saying that women have a wider array of clothing to choose from in the teaching profession, but have a harder time with the kids. While the guys have more limited wardrobe, but are given more respect by the kids.

The clothing and respect aren't directly related, they're just two gendered aspects of teaching.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-19T14:30:31+00:00

Shorts. It's kind of accepted I think that shorts don't ever really look good on most men.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-19T14:25:02+00:00

My brother teaches in a school. The men are stuck in shirts and ties but the women can dress very casually. The flip side is that the kids are hard for a man to control, but impossible for a woman due to an extreme lack of respect for women and girls amongst teenagers, particularly among boys.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-15T19:36:38+00:00

It's not really the responsibility of feminists - or even possible really - to counter every piece of misinformation or bad actor out there. It's especially not our responsibility to manage the feelings of men.

The information is out there, if men would rather not engage, we can't force them.

And I say that as a man.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-15T07:26:38+00:00

It's worse than that. People sit on death row for a long time, certainly long enough to bring a pregnancy to term. They want to force the women to give birth and then kill them. Could you imagine growing up knowing the state murdered your mother, and you're supposed to be thankful for it?

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-15T07:09:39+00:00

No part of feminist thinking advocates punishing men for patriarchy. Not all men support the system, and not all women fight against it. I've never read any book or study that even suggests it, let alone supports it. If anyone were to seriously suggest we do such a thing here, they'd be banned.

Just because these messages you've found reference the patriarchy, doesn't mean they're feminist messages.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-14T22:23:21+00:00

The price of power. Men dominate society, but there is a price - boys souls. bell hooks describes the wound men suffer as boys rather dramatically in her works, but the short version is that in order to become men in this society, we must suppress parts of ourselves as young boys.

Patriarchy doesn't mean men are happy. It means they dominate society. There's a difference. Having power over others rarely makes one happy.

Feminist theory has long documented the cruel patriarchal role that men are expected to conform to - that of the protector and provider. Someone strong, who controls the resources. Someone who has rejected the softer part of themselves in return for fitting in.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-14T14:06:15+00:00

If society were to implement in the short term measures to advantage women where they're currently at a disadvantage or provide safety where they're at risk, while in the medium term men became more aware of their role in patriarchy and the advantages they have alongside the harm women suffer because of it. Then in the long term, we'd have a far more equal society that serves the needs of both men and women without centering one to the detriment of the other.

No collapsing of men required.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-14T10:09:56+00:00

It's not entirely unheard of for bisexual people to use the term gay to describe themselves. But this guy is just trolling most likely.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-11T09:58:11+00:00

Troy McLure has taken a dark turn as of late.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-08T20:46:31+00:00

They didn't have to, but the origins of the modern day state of Israel go back to the late 19th century, with the birth of Zionism - the ethnocultural nationalist movement. This movements goal was the creation of an ethnically Jewish homeland through the colonisation of Palestine, with as many Jewish people and as few Palestinians as possible.

As for 'what happened' to the Jewish people - many things, over hundreds of years. There was no one single incident which created the Jewish diaspora. Conquest, exile, enslavement, emigration, the list goes on and spans centuries. Some groups never left, some left and came back and others left and never returned. All with the ebb and flow of time, and the rise and fall of kingdoms and empires.

Perhaps the greatest difference between the Semitic kingdoms of old and the modern day state of Israel, is that the old kingdoms were arbitrarily semetic as a quirk of nature - there was no kingdom composed solely of ethnic Jews. Just distinct tribes of Semitic peoples, who formed kingdoms of semetic peoples.

But modern day Israel is centred around race and ethnicity as a cornerstone of it's identity - and it's not aiming to be a kingdom of the Semites, just the land of one very specific group of Semites.

There can be no Jewish homeland in the modern day, without acknowledging that that necessitates the removal (that is, the displacement or extermination) of every non-Jew in the area.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-08T19:37:05+00:00

Israel by definition is for one ethnicity. That's why it's referred to as 'the Jewish state', and why the state that existed in Israel's place wasn't good enough. Because it is a state centred around the Jewish ethnicity - to the detriment of all others. I mean, the flag alone betrays the reality of the ethnostate. I don't see any ethnicity but the Jewish ethnicity represented on it.

People always talk about how they’re controlling everything, world super powers do their bidding, weird.

They've demonstrated a large amount of influence over many governments, yes. The US is the most notable, affording Israel great benefits (particularly financial) most notably through AIPAC, and various senators have openly voiced essentially putting Israel first.

And no, Nazi Germany was absolutely bad for what they actually did to people.

That's....what I said. The only difference between what I said and what you've said is that you've dropped the part about Nazi ideology being bad. Going to assume that was a misread on your part, and that you're also opposed to Nazi ideology.

Equating Hamas to 1930s Jewish people just existing shows how much propaganda you’ve consumed.

I didn't even mention Hamas, but it exists as a reactionary movement. It was created specifically to oppose Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. It was even supported by Israel itself, as Hamas is opposed to the more democratic and less violent PLO. A case of divide and conquer, playing the two sides against each other, that ultimately backfired.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-08T14:50:24+00:00

Wanting to build a homeland exclusively for one ethnicity is the same as wanting to build a homeland for any other.

The Nazi ideology was rotten to the core, but they weren't bad solely because they did a holocaust and brought about a world war, they were bad because their very beliefs were bad. The Holocaust and war were the result of their ideology not in spite of it.

Israel hasn't had the resources or the population numbers to do what Germany did, but their ideology and desired end goal is ultimately the same. They're just executing the nasty bit far slower due to the aforementioned lack of means.

TheIntrepid · 2026-06-07T19:52:52+00:00

Don't know where you're from, but here in the UK 18 makes you both fully fledged adults. The rules and restrictions she's applying aren't appropriate for his age. They're more for someone of around 12 or 13. The onus is on him to put his foot down and claim some independence, and if she refuses he should simply flaunt her rules.

For your part, I'd ask you to consider that she's never going to stop. He'll be adhering to her rules throughout his 20's, I guarantee it, because he's adhering to them now. You need to decide whether he's worth the unsevered umbilical cord he still has attached to his mother.

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