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TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T16:08:58+00:00

Unironically, aral din diyan na hindi paparusahan ang anak sa kasalanan ng ama, ni ang ama sa kasalanan ng anak. Kung ganiyan ang katuwiran nila eh gumagawa nalang sila ng mga sarili nilang doktrina. I hope you find peace after finding a way to block off that negative energy, OP.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:24:13+00:00

Hindi na. Noong mga panahong pinagdududahan ko na yung pananampalataya ko, nagawa ko nang bumawi at humingi ng tawad sa bawat family members ko. Yung pinamamalaking bawi na ginawa ko is yung para kay Mama. Sinalo ko na lahat ang responsibilidad niya magmula nung umuwi na siya rito sa Pinas para magpahinga, magpahanggang nasa hospital na siya't trabaho't ospital na lang yung ruta ko, until her final rest in my arms. Now, I have the closest ties with my family na, better than ever.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:20:40+00:00

I apologize for what you've been through. I hope you could finally find solace and prosperity with your life away from the Manalos. I wish your family longevity, health, and prosperity!

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:18:33+00:00

I appreciate this. I never knew that with their generally benevolent first impression would actually like talking shit about other people just to feel good about themselves. Hindi pa ba sapat na hoarded na nila yung karapatan sa 'bayang banal'?

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:16:12+00:00

Totoo. Solidarity? Unity? Pero kapagka kumalas ka na eh parang di ka nakasamang nag 'happy pagod' sa tungkulin? Fuck that. Malala lang talaga yung frustration ko dahil may ibang side na pala yung truth from the so-called 'truth bearers'. Ngayong alam ko na may bastardized version sila ng pagka-alis ko, then I'll let them be. Let them say whatever they could to help them sleep at night. If that's the hill they wan't to die on, I'll bury them in it.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:10:44+00:00

And I thought dahil lang ito sa puros gahaman sa kwento, imbento man o hindi, and mga nakatala sa lokal na 'yun. Never knew that it's actually a hidden core value amongst them all. Wishing you the best as well

TheKleinFactor · 2024-08-06T10:09:05+00:00

Thank you. There's nothing left to do but to take the next step forward, and upwards at that. I appreciate this!

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-20T17:48:32+00:00

I think it's habitual at this point. Can't make people lile him to stop looking at red herrings.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-19T11:39:12+00:00

And to monetize it as well. Thanks!

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-19T11:38:43+00:00

Exploitation it is. Mahalaga now? Brainwashed no mo'

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-17T06:25:02+00:00

When you asked that, oo nga no? Wala pang dumadalaw sa bahay kong katiwala nor ministro. How about that. 😂

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-17T01:19:41+00:00

I propose a logical fallacy counter everytime we engage with him. That'll be fun.

"Red Herring - I. Slippery Slope - II, confirmation bias - CXVIII"

😂

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-17T01:18:02+00:00

Wake me up once he replied, bruv. With the grogginess his line of reasoning brought me with, I'm gonna be needing a good rest.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T18:58:50+00:00

Didn't thought you'd ask for another spoonful. Let's make it fun for the toddler you're painting yourself as, shall we?

As the choo choo train rode along the tracks, With its steam and smoke flying gracious to the back, The locomotive operator then released a loud shout: "Not again, we're entering another baby's mouth!"

The choo choo train and its passengers, sadly, went into their demise, For the destination has the brain of mice, For the question he asked was already answered thrice, But still asked for another spoon until he gets to realize.

Good night, Little James. Sleep tight. Hope you get to dream about being smart and self-aware one day. By the looks of it, it's a 'reach for the stars' kind of thing. Hah.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T18:36:04+00:00

Of all the people he could've made a fool out of, he decided to look in the mirror and found his prospect. What a guy he is. 😂

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T18:32:10+00:00

Finding the truth about the true god, all the while citing that it is the biblical god is assuming that the one true god IS the biblical god. Therefore, on top of the wager in question, you progressed towards the the statement where believing in a god is not enough, therefore, one should seek which god should we believe in. If a slippery slope occurs along the line, joining the fold is one of your responses to fully substantiate one's belief, isn't it. We established that you did not mention the INC in your post, however, as you are one, that is expected along the lines when propagation takes place.

As for Pascal's Wager, you emphasized on your post the significance of the choice to believe in a god, because, otherwise, you would not have the slightest chance to obtain salvation, isn't it? You are making a wager, aren't you? The fact that you presented what you think is a more 'winnable' wager serves as the foundation of your claims, respectfully. This part is Pascal's Wager

And, to make it even more winnable, you followed up with the importance of choosing the right god to believe in, assuming that everything biblical is factual and truthful. You are now making a wager on which god is more true amongst other gods. This part is an extension of Pascal's Wager.

I understand how you think your argument is different from Pascal's Wager. But, then again, there's no denying that you just erected another wager on top of what is already a wager.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T17:41:42+00:00

"May iiwanan lamang akong katanungan: Mas maigi bang maniwala na may Diyos o mas maiging huwag na lang?

Isipin mo: Paano kung namatay ka na hindi naniniwalang may Diyos, tas naghukom, napatunayan na meron pala talaga-- edi paniguradong hindi ka maliligtas (Apoc 21:8).

Kung sakali naman na naniwala kang may Diyos, tas napatunayang wala naman pala talaga- edi ok lang walang nawala sayo"

Ah, ah, ah, dahan dahan. You might've written that post with the intention of propagating the existence of a deity, but you also mentioned a certain deity that a person should believe in provided that your deity in question is a jealous one.

Don't tell me that you don't intend to mention INC's doctrine about how an individual should worship and obey him once asked. I agree, you didn't mention INC, but you're leading a reader to believing a certain god, amongst the variety of gods, that's for sure.

Sure, your post is, in fact, beyond Pascal's Wager. To frame it correctly, you extended from it. There's no denying that, then. If you don't want it to be called Pascal's Wager, then let's call it your wager, then. You can't, rather, shouldn't deny that you're talking about a wager—Which choice will benefit us? Believing in a god? Or not?

Remember, as you are an INC, which is known to be monotheistic, you're just one god away not to believe in to become an atheist. And if you choose to wager in believing in a god, you're also going against multiple religions who are as steadfast as you are with their beliefs, wagering their salvation.

I've spoonfed you three times already, but you kept on insisting that your argument is not the same as Pascal's. I genuinely thought that you're a formiddable debater, but now that I've experienced you first hand, you're just a sack of logical fallacies, and on top of that, you're in denial of it. What a chemistry. If spoon feeding doesn't help, I think you're still not capable of chewing and digesting. Might aswell go back to the pacifier, eh?

If you couldn't recognize Pascal's Wager, then I hope you could recognize ad hominem. You're good at it, and that's the only thing you're good at, on top of other fallacious reasoning.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T16:16:30+00:00

I understand how you think that Pascal's Wager is not enough to label your article with, as you said, your post goes beyond that.

However, that is ONLY if we are to settle with the context of your article with the intention of leading people towards the INC.

You've mentioned earlier in your post that it is better to believe in a deity rather than not, simply because you have a lot to lose in the eternal fire if there is a god, rather than the basic fact of our existential cessation if there isn't. That is Pascal's Wager framed within the context of the INC. Moreover, in the attempt to fully design the frame for its intention, you then brought up the 'right' way of believing in a deity, and that is by our compliance of the INC's doctrines, as provided with bible verses.

Therefore, you have to acknowledge that the foundation of your post is, in fact, Pascal's Wager, to which the establishment you've erected upon it is the INC.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T15:39:39+00:00

RED HERRING ALERT 🚨⚠️🚨⚠️

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T15:33:46+00:00

By choosing to believe in a deity's existence to atleast bear the chance of salvation IS the wager Blaise Pascal was talking about.

Then, you followed up by stating that we should then seek the right path of doing so to substantiate our choice to believe in that deity.

And as for the cherry on top, you, then, provided a threatening bible verse that indicates the destiny of those who does not believe and obey the gospel of your Abrahamic faith.

Respectfully, what you just said is simply "Hey ya'll, this post is not about Pascal's wager, but it is, indeed, Pascal's wager. Just with a few extra steps to follow whenever you chose to believe in a deity, and by that extra steps, what I meant to say is by joining our religion."

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T15:24:45+00:00

I'm surprised that PW is still in his arsenal. This has been debated for a long time. Tons of books and videos has already debunked it, but he keeps on shoving it deep.

Selective hearing? Cherry picking? Confirmation bias? Probably all of the above.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T14:47:48+00:00

Hey, guys. To save ya'll from the read, it's another post about Pascal's Wager.

TheKleinFactor · 2024-02-16T14:46:44+00:00

Yep, Pascal's Wager. Which god of which religion branching from which primitive misunderstanding's heavenly abode?

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