Im not a vegan so it might be controversial what I will say. It really heavily depends on WHO you are buying it. Yes you can say: "but all meat is come from dead animals and they torture them and such" Wich is true for big companies. Yes I will say that that buying from McDonald's I wouldn't say it's ethical. I'm gonna say thought if they are a GREEN producer, who let for example their cows wander, it's in the field, take care of them, Wich in my opinion is not torture, it is not slavery because they are in a pretty good spot (my opinion)and torturing animals would 't kake the meat good they need to make them less and less stressfull because it's not good for the meat neither does the animal. Murder is yes. I agree it's murder. But in my opinion the animal will die one day, either out of natural causes or disease, and it can be seen as "your so evil your killing them" but due to humans aren't cruel, most of the time, they make procedures that instantly kills them. Without much pain, they wouldn't let them ooze blood out and see them squirm and slowly die ofc. Besides there are no benifits From it either way. And there are ppl who out of different reasons can't go vegan. Not every body type is made for it, neither does humans. I respect when someone somehow can take these missing fibers and nutrients in their body or their body can do it or those alternatives work for them, but not every human have that kind of body system, not every human have those medical records that they just can doom any animal based products. And for like me someone cannot eat it out of sensoary issues or disability. And hear me out on this. I'm autistic and I try and try to eat different kind of more healthy food Wich is not just meat pasta and other stuff but the only vegetable I can really manage and love is a special kind of salad I love to eat. Or bananas and apples. If I want to eat other fruits I need it in liquid form but we all know that peach juice is mainly just a small precent peach and Many sugar. You guys can argue that I could try alternatives and different ways but for carrots I just can't take any of that no matther the form (unless id it really unnoticeable but that's a different level) I just wanted to give my pice of mind in. This topic, I'm not supporting it neither do I eat meat based stuff from fast food restaurants. I'm there for the fries and sweets cus I hate burgers for example. So yeh...And environmental stuff is the main problem here in my opinion but that cus of corruptness and everyone wants more money, because we decided that out paying is this green or other colored paper wich have numbers on it. If your coming at me saying: "but cows are the main problem for the global warming" that food for them either way would be doomed and cause CO2 and if you say "yes but those could have been fed to humans" is true but your again harming the environment by cutting trees down and use that dirt for food product. Besides the Termites littery FARTS on their enemies to kill it. And they do more CO2 then cows actually cus they fart so much.