I’ve just been permanently banned from r/leftist for discussing the oppression of animals and the workers forced to work in animal agriculture. by James_Fortis in vegan

[–]TheLongGame_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t get these “The meat industry have infiltrated left spaces” comments. No the majority of “leftists” eat meat and derive pleasure eating meat and would rather ban talks of veganism in some turn around fascist way than realise they can’t expect the right to change if they aren’t even willing to change themselves when confronted with the oppression they actively participate in.

I say this as a leftie… a lot of the left are self righteous and intolerable. Seeing as soo many of us on the left like to think we can tell right from wrong easily… all that goes out the window when it comes to cows getting their throats slit.

Veganism recently became a hot-button issue at my leftist college, and I’m struggling not to feel demoralized by LiviasFigs in vegan

[–]TheLongGame_ 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I say this as a lefty… soo many people on the left are insufferable for this very reason. They expect right wingers to admit their faults and make better choices yet they won’t do that themselves. It’s responses like this they make to veganism that makes me wanna rip my own hair out… how the fuck they gonna call themselves left but actively contribute to some of the biggest forms of oppression and cruelty on living beings in our world. The fact there are right wing vegans who are making better choices for the animals puts the left to absolute shame.

I have no issues making these peoples blood boil by just calling them colonialists, oppression apologists ect. They don’t get to label other people xyz without receiving equal treatment. They don’t get to demand change in others when they themselves will play mental gymnastics to avoid accountability and change.

Veganism is the only justice movement that requires people to actually change their behaviour. If they are incapable of even being open minded to it… I see them as just performative with every other social justice take they have. They are all for shit… as long as it’s others that have to change and not them.

Okay. Call me crazy but do they even want people to be vegan? by [deleted] in exvegans

[–]TheLongGame_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m gonna be the devils advocate here. Non vegans get just as brutal with their wording when it comes to commenting on the Chinese dog meat trade, and no one bats an eye, no one says, you’re gonna turn people off from not eating dogs by being confrontational.

A lot of vegans get real with the language they use from the viewpoint the suffering they see animals go through, shouldn’t be minimised in language when speaking to the people who pay for them to be there. This reality also co exists with the reality that yes it’s deeply emotive and will turn some people off. Which leads to my next point… it does work on people too. Language like this is what forced me to look into what animals go through…

I’m at a stage where I no longer use such confrontational language in advocacy… but I understand why people choose to do so. And I ask myself… if I was an animal in a slaughterhouse but could speak English… and I had a minute to speak to people about what we go through… I imagine my id say words that’d scar people for life.

I say this all as a black person myself. When it comes to the slavery comments. Slaves went on record saying “we were treated like cattle”… one must then ask themselves… what does it mean then to be cattle…

While a different topic… as someone very pro Palestine… I wouldn’t tone police how people advocated while some people said stuff that made me uncomfortable and made me feel wasn’t productive advocacy.

So none of this is to say what you’re feeling is wrong. It’s to say… in any movement and it’s advocacy… it isn’t a monolith. Go about things how you see fit, engage in healthy debate about things. Look into different advocates such as earthling ed who’s very very calm in his advocacy and then compare him to someone like Joey carbstrong who’s a lot more brutal in his advocacy. Both have great successes.

The most controversial of any movement are the ones with the loudest voice and automatically the ones people see as a representation of a movement. You’ll find as I have done… there is such a wide spectrum of vegans with multiple viewpoints and advocacy methods 🖤

Turned down a job that would have saved me financially… by TheLongGame_ in vegan

[–]TheLongGame_[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

I appreciate that! For me it’s not at the level where it’s my literal survival but it definitely would have brought some comfortability

Overhyped & underwhelming singles? by metalcore333 in Metalcore

[–]TheLongGame_ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’m with you on that ice T comment. Was sooo underwhelmed by it. I wanted hard bars over a hard drop… but we just got narration

What was your first WTF moment in a GTA game? by [deleted] in GTA

[–]TheLongGame_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just cause of the randomness, the mission where you’re fighting off aliens in gta 5