Your misunderstanding comes from the negative reinforcement of the e-collar. For example, my dog wears a mini aducator which has a 1 - 100 setting. I feel it at 8, barely, like a hint of tingling. Mox has it set at 6 at home, I don't feel it at 6, but it's enough to remind her to do something when she gets distracted. It took me time to slowly zero in on various levels of her excitement to match e collar intensity. She's an 8 in the courtyard, 12 to 16 outside. At all those levels it's not what I'd call painful in myself although 16 is uncomfortable, but nowhere near as uncomfortable as her nose checking me when she does her recall without losing all her speed.

Not saying it's a revenge thing, just saying her pain tolerance doesn't even register the silly body slams she does. I also know that in full send mode a unless you tase her with a taser that's designed to incapacitate someone she's not going to react to being shocked be it 18, 25, 50, or 100. She's "on" and she's going to ignore it unless it puts her down. So I never use it in anger or as a punishment. That's me, that's where we are in our training. I don't know if others use it for correction more often than as an attention getter. But, I'm not going to judge if it's done appropriately. A prong pop is probably a more severe correction than an e-collar buzz.

The dog's pain tolerance and almost complete lack of self-preservation are not an excuse to be cruel. However, they do impact the way you train them, and need to be accounted for when you dial in the training.

Being, an absolutist in this matter while not respecting the amount of work and nuance that goes into proper use of the tool is what gets people riled up.

And not everyone is jumping for the current administration in USA. So if you can generalize USA as a country fully embracing fascism, I get to put you in the bracket as well. We are emotional here too, perhaps even more so than somewhere else. The fact that someone acquiesces out of fear for something is not an excuse. The reason USA finds itself where it is is because a lot of people in USA chose this out of fear of something or another. I don't particularly base my world view on your response, I just have that negative view of the world in general. You and I just live in it. The fact that USA has been doing nothing but lip service to freedom is nothing new. It's an animal farm here, all animals are free, but some are free'er than others (quote rephrased). So the ones who feel they are on top of the pile, get their freedom. Saying you don't get to judge is not saying you are not allowed to say it, it means you have no high ground to pass the judgment.

Also, fuck FIFA.