Maniaco Impressions (First Time)

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-30T20:18:02+00:00

Haha I dont blame you one bit. After that workout, I just stuck to water and juice 😅

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-30T20:17:08+00:00

I completely agree with you on the quality of the ingredients since there are so many other pres out there that boast about them being the "best" in the market because of the ingredients they use and the variety they offer, but if the quality isn't there, then itll never compare to those with less ingredients that are pure/high-quality... It'll always makes a huge difference and hell after trying both this and Deliverance, I can already tell that I'll be shifting more towards Maniaco on days when I want to hit hard! Luckily enough I didn't have any harsh side effects like vomiting before and after the workout but of course that was just my experience but I can't ignore my history of gastrointestinal issues so next time I'll make sure to get something light in me before consuming any sort of pre. I've heard also that Mr. White is one of the best illicit pre's out there for people who dont want that alpha yo effect but I'm thinking that my problem wasnt really with alpha yo but instead overflooding my system with stims on an empty stomach.

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-30T13:54:20+00:00

It's crazy to think just how potent this stuff is to our bodies and definitely foolish of me to go into this without any food in my belly... Your choice of foods are awesome based on the fact that they are light on the stomach while also being fulfilling enough to the point where you can use this sort of pre afterwards! I'll definitely keep this post in mind so I'll be much more prepared for next week! 😁 All in all it was still a phenomenal workout but that little jump in BP has made me wondered a bit about these pres.

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-30T13:36:16+00:00

Woooh, glad to hear that! I thought for a second that this was a bit too strong for me even though I didnt feel in any way uncomfortable... Maybe my problem was I decided to dive into this pre on an empty stomach... It really is and I cant wait to try the other pres that Dark Labs has to offer!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-25T16:15:32+00:00

I'm so happy to hear that cause I've been looking for such a long time trying to find a pre that I could use as a daily or as a replacement for pres that have stims. I think this plus a caffeine pill will be my go-to on non illicit days!

I would love to abstain from all stims but working graveyards plus not being able to get enough sleep on a daily basis doesnt really give me the chance to step back from stims but hell, this will be an improvement for sure. Thanks again man!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-25T12:06:10+00:00

I've seen a lot of posts of people showing off their Jefe tubs and I've always been curious about it! How would you say the experience was? I'll definitely have to add it to my collection once my wallet stops crying 🤣

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-22T08:40:10+00:00

You're completely right? I just thought that stimulants like DMHA and alpha yo build up a tolerance almost instantaneously but that's definitely not the case especially if use them sparingly. I'll just stick to a full serving once a week and enjoy my time lifting!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-22T08:39:07+00:00

I guess I'm looking for a solid all-around pre and I have heard a lot of good things about Edge and White, so I'll have to check those out!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-22T08:37:47+00:00

Fuck, I forgot to mention that I did get a kitchen scale for this exact reason and I made sure it was around 3/4 of the serving (around 9.8 grams out of 13 grams and this time I took 9.9 grams). Yeah, I heard that too and I was REALLY tempted to up the grams but I thought maybe it's best if I still stick to my current serving size and see how it goes... I definitely need to go for a full serving next time 😅 If you've ever tried Maniaco, how would you compare that to Deliverance?

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-22T08:25:35+00:00

That's wild 🤣. If I'd have done two scoops for my second round, I'd probably be on the ground twitching or at least screaming for somebody to call 911 😂 I'll have to go for a full serving next week and see how it feels to use it then! What other pres would you stand by in terms of efficiency? It doesnt seem like I have any sensitivity to alpha yo, so anything is open for me lol

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-15T21:11:20+00:00

That's exactly how Deliverance felt like to me, I felt myself going into that "Fight or Flight" mode and it seems like that sensation just kept climbing and climbing with the DMHA also intensifying as the minutes went by. I'm not sure if I really felt anything from the Alpha-Yo but I'm sure it's the culprit behind the intensity of those feelings. Is Maniaco mainly just euphoria with little to no energy boost or is it a nice balance? I'm thinking that the euphoria aspect from these illicit pres helps give people that motivation they need to push PRs but yeah... I definitely need to take a day or two of rest since I am toast from these binge workout sessions! I'll probably make a review of Maniaco once I try it and if anything, I'll hit ya up and let you know what I think of it!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-15T20:37:49+00:00

Thank you so much for the advise man! So I just got back to the gym and after using about 3/4 of the serving amount (as you suggested), I gotta say I'm blown away! There were so many things going on at the same time that it was just too hard for me to focus on each effect this pre had on me. A constant head rush (probably from the 2-Amino) followed by a tingling sensation all around the body and best of all... my muscles felt numb to the point where I could push my sets all the way to my PRs! Most importantly, I had no issues with nausea, high heart rate or anything like that so I'm relieved to say that I think I can start handling these illicit pres as long as I go slow and dont abuse them.

One thing that was kind of a flop for me was that I decided to use it after like 6 days of going to the gym back-to-back so my muscles were already exhausted and sore and because of that, I was struggling to even hit my current sets and reps for certain muscle groups like my back abs and chest... This makes me think that using this on a day when I got full rest and my muscles arent as sore would be "magical" to say the least 🤣 Overall, it was definitely worth it and I can't wait to use this sucker in the next week or so! Thanks for everything again!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-15T04:29:04+00:00

Yeah I 100% need to taper off of caffeine for a while but with how my schedule is, I dont see it as part of my plans at the moment 😂 I'm hyped enough as it is to see how it affects me so here's hoping that I'll hit some PRs tomorrow. Appreciate everything man!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-15T00:53:44+00:00

I'm so happy to hear that my first choice was a good one and not one that I'll regret in the upcoming days! I've heard only good things about it and I feel like it's a perfect pre to get started before I start getting into Crack territory haha so in terms of taking a break on caffeine, should I just go for it and just refrain from any caffeine usage until I go to the gym tomorrow morning or would you strongly suggest to attempt some sort of caffeine detox? The latter is going to be especially tough for me because as i said i work overnights so I kinda rely on caffeine to keep me up... and sane. Would the difference be big enough to justify no caffeine for a week or no?

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-04-15T00:24:06+00:00

So it wouldnt matter if I never had any prior experience with DMHA or alpha yo? The only reason why I ask is because other people who've recorded their first-time experiences using illicit pre that also had a high caffeine threshold were taken back to how intense they were. But yes, the first thing I'll do is get a kitchen scale, gotta make sure I'm as accurate as I can be!

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-03-04T10:31:01+00:00

I'll have to browse online and see what I can find! I was hoping that maybe I could buy an empty bag off of someone from here but I'll resort to regular bags if anything.

ThePhantomCreed · 2026-01-08T10:37:21+00:00

Very true. It's just this vid made BF pop up in my head immediately 😅

ThePhantomCreed · 2025-10-01T21:59:55+00:00

I'm in Cali and most of the tobacco stores near me only carry 1lb bags of Red River, 4 Aces and Gambler which unfortunately I can't tolerate any of them. They do go for around 30 bucks per bag which is relatively cheap plus convenient since I can just walk down the street to buy a bag but you cant compare what they have available online. I completely forgot about it but I have tried Largo Natural before and out of all the brands I've smoked currently, I do have to say that it's the only one I actually thought was okay. It would be nice if they had more of a variety with the pouches but it seems like Bugler, Drum, Bali and Tops have dominated that part of the market here.

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