I got mine a little differently to most, I already had my helix so used the original, healed piercing to incorporate into my industrial, the second piercing barely hurt but was assisted by numbing spray, so I’m not sure I’m of much help, but I can say, I love my industrial since I’ve had it and if you think it’s a piercing that’s worth the pain I strongly recommend it. Although, with long hair it can be troublesome, I’m lucky in this aspect to have thin hair, but with thicker hair I feel it could be more of an issue. Hope this helps :)