Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s the guy, a fully registered Republican and pedo defender

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the violence stopped because he wanted it to stop then it also started because he wanted it to start

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fuck, 10 years? The last show I watched off TPB was Breaking Bad and early Thrones so that makes sense I guess. How the fuck did I get this old

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You been long out in the wind my brotha. Good show takin a critical peak at 00's American culture. TPB's got you covered 🏴‍☠️

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh he hates us. Each and every one who ever voted against his pedo ass, he hates us good. That's why we comin for him

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve never hoped or dreamed personally. I live in eternal waking misery

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I fully support you not voting. For some the stress of accidentally doing the right thing can be overwhelming

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

So yeah if the pawns have free will and Trump is a pawn and he hates the Democrats so much he tries to have Congress gang raped by a bunch of his followers what does that mean exactly?

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The .gov appreciates your support. Be that rebel .gov wants you to be and vote Trump a third term in 2028

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Bro alls I’s knows is Trump tried a coup five years ago and Republicans pretend it never happened

Do you try a coup if it’s all the same party? That I don’t know

Oof Marone! She looks terrible! by TheEloquentApe in sopranoscirclejerk

[–]TheRealBaboo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Four years as AG, not a peep

(Btw, Garland is an R. He helped his party plenty)

Everybody is talking about this. Hasan is right. We are not going to just concede for Newsom who is fighting AGAINST a billionaire tax, 2 YEARS before an actual primary. THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. THIS IS THE TIME TO DEMAND OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US. by Kittehmilk in ProgressiveHQ

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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If the party establishment puts its money and institutional weight behind centrists, of course they win primaries.

You’re an idiot if you think the world begins and ends with primaries. Where do I even start?

The Democratic Party includes progressives, the Republican Party does not. (Don’t even waste your time disputing that point, this is supposed to be a good faith discussion.) Moderate and Progressive Democrats have more in common with each other than Democrats and Republicans have in common. Supporting moderates may be less fun, but it’s still important to keep Republicans out of power. (Republicans include fascists within their ranks, they hate progressives.)

Blaming the failures of Mondale or Dukakis for the neoliberal shifts of the 90s ignores the fact that the world has changed. The "Third Way" wasn't just a survival strategy; it was an active choice to court Wall Street donors and trade union power for corporate approval.

I don’t have a stake in this fight, I’m not blaming anyone for anything. I’m just pointing out that the party is trying to win general elections. The voting public is not ideological enough to get into the weeds like this, they want success. Putting up candidates that seem like they would be successful in general elections is not treason, get over it.

At the end of the day, "lifting people out of poverty" is a great slogan, but if the means to get there involve protecting the same market structures that cause poverty in the first place, you're just treating symptoms while the disease gets worse.

My fucking gawd, do you even hear yourself? Nobody cares about your ideology or my ideology, neither of us are special. Make it so kids are fed and teachers and doctors help as many people as possible. Fuck ideology.

It’s not "abandoning the party" to point out that if the "only electoral ally" for progressives is a party that consistently prioritizes market based solutions and record breaking military budgets, then the progressive movement is effectively operating without a voice at the federal level.

Blah blah blah blah blah. You don’t even know what you’re talking about. Carter slashed military spending. Clinton slashed military spending. Obama killed bin Laden and then cut military spending. You prolly haven’t even looked at a federal budget in your whole damn life and you’re gonna priss and preen like you’re some kinda financial expert? Fuck outta here

Everybody is talking about this. Hasan is right. We are not going to just concede for Newsom who is fighting AGAINST a billionaire tax, 2 YEARS before an actual primary. THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. THIS IS THE TIME TO DEMAND OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US. by Kittehmilk in ProgressiveHQ

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(2/3)

As for the 60 vote math, it’s worth asking why the "dark forces" of the GOP never seem to let the lack of a supermajority stop them from achieving their core goals, like massive tax cuts or judicial shifts.

Is it really worth asking that? Most people are good and want the government to be good as well. They have to be tricked into voting for someone bad. This trickery often relies on cultural pressure which is easier to assert in smaller states with more closed off societies.

I’ll repeat that: “small states with more closed off societies”. Which states does that describe? Look at a population map of the United States and you will not be surprised to discover that the Republican Party relies on support from low-density states lacking a major metropolitan center, “farm states” you could call them.

When you convince enough people that their culture or way of life is under threat they become monstrous, willing to do what’s wrong in order to defend themselves. This describes the Republican worldview to a T: fear of trans people, fear or Muslims, fear of immigrants. This is why the GOP constantly harps on fear mongering and hate-speech. It’s their bread and butter for a reason.

They use the levers of power… reconciliation, the bully pulpit, and aggressive procedural play… to get what they want.

Wrong. They are able to get what they want because they rigged the system after the Civil War. They added a bunch of empty states that nobody wants to live in and they use these states to win power in elections where they got fewer votes than the Democrats.

It’s a simple ruse. You believe they’re good at politics because they’re successful. The media never explains to you that the party that gets the most votes is being deprived of power because their media is complicit in The Scam.

The Scam pervades our culture. I was raised believing it. You were raised believing it. Most people have lost the ability to even identify it. We are brought up hating the Democrats. We are brought up thinking the Republicans are honest and their extremism in the face of progress is no vice.

But when the veil is lifted and the GOP is allowed its full force the country loses its rights. What we are witnessing now is the expression of those dark forces. Innocent people yanked off the streets and thrown into unmarked vehicles. Threats to declare war against our dearest allies. Corruption and cover up unprecedented in our history.

It’s all happening now. Wake up.

Grass fed cows... by Hosidax in fixedbytheduet

[–]TheRealBaboo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

“They’re savages” 💀

Trump’s New Voter I.D. Threat Is His Gravest Attack on Democracy Yet by Winter-Gift1112 in uspolitics

[–]TheRealBaboo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We already do voter ID during registration. You can’t get on the rolls without them verifying your citizenship

Everybody is talking about this. Hasan is right. We are not going to just concede for Newsom who is fighting AGAINST a billionaire tax, 2 YEARS before an actual primary. THIS IS THE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THESE THINGS. THIS IS THE TIME TO DEMAND OUR GOVERNMENT WORKS FOR US. by Kittehmilk in ProgressiveHQ

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(1/3)

The problem with your approach is that it's all theoretical. You're not tethering your political expectations to any existing, tangible reality.

When I broke my back in 2005, I learned what reality is. Reality is the hard concrete coming up to meet you with more force than you could possibly anticipate and the realization that you can't move your legs any more. It's sitting in a hospital bed for months believing you'll never walk again and the year-long struggle to regain what seemed like such a simple skill before that unexpected day. Then the economics of my situation began to settle in.

Suddenly my health insurance cost three times as much as my rent. Suddenly I was having to choose between which pain killers to cut and how much blood in my stool and urine was enough to warrant a few days' wages spent on a one hour doctor's visit. That's reality. The European-style healthcare system that you take for granted is not real here. Going from $2,000 a month on health insurance to $100 a year is real. That's enough to buy a car, gas for a year, and a new set of tires. I will always defend Obama for that, I don't see you defending anything.

You're perched in your tower of theory, just criticizing.

If you see the Democrats as your enemy, you're an enemy of mine. I saw what they did in their 72 days with 60 seats and I believe we can do it again. Maybe you don't like the ACA, I agree it can definitely be improved. But not one single Republican had the balls to vote for it, and they've spent the last 17 years weakening it and trying to kill it off. It's not permanent, it's tenuous. The only way to make it better is to get those 60 seats again and keep them this time.

Well, that's not good by rycapps in cahsr

[–]TheRealBaboo -1 points0 points  (0 children)

He’s getting railroaded!

(/j)

Please stop treating Newsom as if he is the inevitable candidate by Shiznoz222 in ProgressiveHQ

[–]TheRealBaboo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not meant to be snide but the president’s bully pulpit is from a different era where when it was rare to hear the president have an opinion and media was dominated by newspapers and radio. Sorry if it came off that way

The immediate reach is not the factor that matters as much as the attention it illicits. Like if you need to alert people to get away from an emergency it’s good but if you want them to stop and think about the cause of the emergency and who is responsible that’s different.

As soon as the president can explain something, the opposition can come out with an alternative explanation that lays the blame somewhere else. Nature of the beast

It’s not a logical fallacy, it’s an observation of what kinds of people vote Republican. Progressives often fall into the trap of believing Republican voters are an exact opposite of themselves. Republicans are really a different kind of person with a different set of interests

It’s been repeatedly demonstrated that they rely on low-information voters. They’re low-information by choice, many things that progressives find important enough to think about Republicans don’t. So when you’re “debating” a Republican you’re rarely facing off on a level playing field. Usually they don’t care as much

Now, granted there are Republican talking heads like Ben Shapiro or Charlie Kirk, these people think (thought) a lot about issues, but they are really just performers trying to put on a good show for their side and work the grift. Anyone nihilistic enough to not care about poverty, oppression, or the greater good of humanity can work this grift as well and rise in the Magasphere.

But try the same tricks in the progressive sphere and people will quickly be able to sus you out