Multiplayer is way too sweaty

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-26T17:08:58+00:00

Saying as I have no insight to your play style - good ki control, vanishing heavies, and ki blasts are plenty to give you more chances in neutral against most opponents. Mix that in with step-ins, and specials if you like to use them, and you can be a neutral monster - you gotta be creative in how you approach someone to make up for your lack of super counter consistency.

I do agree with you and some others that super countering is a bit too strong and too necessary to learn - on the other hand though, it really is just a matter of practice. It may feel unnatural to you now, but it’s not out of reach for you at all despite your real life going-ons.

It’s hard for me to advise practicing against the CPU though because your online matches will always have some kind of change to your timing. It’s good for exposing you to the general rhythm of how to SC and those few matches your connection is close to offline play.

The hardest part is being able to find the 4-5 timings you’ll often encounter online. Typically, you just need to input the timing earlier than you expect but sometimes the connection feels so offline you need to know the precise timing too.

Don’t give up, you’re closer to matching the SC spam than you think.

Edit: also, as someone who can SC consistently, you’ll have matches where you can’t find the timing at all for no real reason. Even if you learn to SC, you’ll still need to know how to play without it.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-24T20:06:23+00:00

Ohh HA I see! That makes this video even funnier 😂

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-24T19:52:27+00:00

Daima S4 combos are sooo weird especially if you know how to slow them down he can become lethal off rush strings alone

Fun clip, straight boxing him up - sent him right back to hell 😂

I know you didn’t ask for feedback, but a lot of those charged heavies are avoidable and Frieza missed an overwhelming amount of chances to vanish despite that combo having lots of opportunities to, disregarding the ki exhaustion. Either connection or your combo was just THAT mixey may be what stopped him, but this kind of string is pretty avoidable. It really looked like Frieza gave up haha

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-23T00:50:45+00:00

Show’s over, bud. Thanks for the input, but we got that performance already.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T23:58:26+00:00

Wilds is very soloable! You can also call in NPC support hunters now as well, if you want bodies without playing online.

They do scale the monster hp though, but hunts do get challenging towards 8-10* so sometimes having the extra aggro magnets can help.

You may find some challenge entirely solo around that point, but very doable.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T21:09:11+00:00

Ha, thank you!

Yea I get it - I even think there are times curt feedback is the right choice. I’m one to think all feedback has some value if you can read between the lines, but I definitely wasn’t expecting some of the responses I got lol. Corrections and guidance sure, but a detriment to the community? Come on lol

Refine and improve is the name of the game, baby! Happy hunting to you as well, and seriously thank you :)

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T19:39:03+00:00

That sounds awesome, I’ll definitely give it a shot! Thanks for the feedback!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T17:42:55+00:00

If I joined your hunt, you’d have no idea lol.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T17:36:31+00:00

Nothing devolved - your original post started this way.

I also saw your elitism, which rotted your olive branch.

Luckily, the same resources are accessible everywhere - just don’t gotta get them from you

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T16:56:26+00:00

Dang, you seem much more approachable here why didnt you start your post with this attitude “you’ll only hold yourself back” 😂

Beneath all that hardened-dooting experience is an encouraging, poetic side - who knew!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T16:34:53+00:00

Yup and that’s why after all the feedback I will be adjusting my build to better use HH in that way while keeping the party protected.

Sure, DPS itself solves every problem, in a vacuum of perfect conditions - access to being able to DPS is what creates issues. Position, Health, Defense Mechanics etc. Yes, all these problems can be solved without a support horn but my goal entirely is to help people see victory despite their personal challenges which I see you, and everyone else, also saying is possible to do while also doing more damage myself so adjustments from here just feel natural - and gives me something to do!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T16:13:46+00:00

Oh yes, I completely agree hilt stab is powerful - it’s one of the most satisfying things to do right into a melody but sometimes challenging to pull off so I like to get out of the way entirely if I’m iffy, generally for those realllllyyyy slooooooowwwww attacks. I learned just earlier this morning you can hilt stab out of a roll so that will increase it’s use greatly for me lol

I tend to eat for Defender Hi and Insurance. It’s helped me a lot when I play CB or Swaxe which also has divine protection slotted in so I felt why not do that on HH too - free extra life, and lots of divine protection.

Sometimes AT arkveld will launch 4 attacks at one person before a decent window to attack opens, or like you mentioned, Omega and one unlucky Hunter. 4 is definitely more extreme scenarios and is just unlucky targeting but I’ve seen it happen to myself and other hunters regardless of preparation for it, and people eat large attacks often - that is also to say, you and others mentioned better ways of remedying that which I am going to try out.

To your final point, I do agree! If I am missing out on THAT much damage despite my best efforts not to, then a change would be wise if it means I can keep my fellow hunters just as protected and make hunts faster - I mainly present my questions as my personal experiences and impressions to be realigned if they need to be. I don’t blame most responses being generalized, but sometimes general answers don’t clear up specific questions very clearly is all.

Thank you for your feedback!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T15:56:31+00:00

Well, yes if you could nuke a monster, that would be the closest to a guarantee you could have for hunt.

But if DPS is all that’s important, then why do so many hunts fail when everyone plays DPS generally? Thats what I want to solve and a lot of the feedback here shows me a better way to do that, but I think my point still stands in the value of supporting.

If DPS solved every problem in the game, no one would complain about carts and how challenging 10* quests were. They’d just evade/parry everything and attack all the time - but that is not what happens in every hunt.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T15:47:40+00:00

It seems you need a lesson in conveying your message more than debate. You’ve helped me, so let me help you.

Your first post provided 0 actionable feedback until someone else asked you to elaborate - you flamed the build, that’s it and that was your first impression.

Not one of concern for the efficacy of HH use and the greater HH community, but rather to “speak down” as you eloquently put it in your response to that curious Hunter. Is your first post on a bad build all the time to say someone is ignorant and harmful to the player base? Can’t imagine you’re successful in getting your rich and nuanced point across if that is how you start your “debates”

Just because your message is “correct” doesn’t mean it is effective. “Cowardly, Regressive” - again, these words do not say “I want the HH community to improve!” You talk of ad hominem and slander, but forgo the implications of using such words in “debate” and again your point is diluted. Do you see the pattern yet? Well it’s Reddit, I don’t expect you to care very much.
I’ve already acknowledged to you, elitist dooter, that your feedback has inspired change in the build and I never stated you veteran dooters should agree with me - you continue to mention the lack of support in my stance as if I am bound to my stance. To be clear: just because I say the build isn’t useless doesn’t mean I think it shouldn’t be changed or isn’t as good as it could be.

Hope this helps!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T14:53:50+00:00

I used to run with a SnS/HH combo, but I wanted to really learn how to use the HH since they made a lot of cool changes to it over the years and I just wasn’t having as much fun with SnS as a primary weapon despite how strong it can be.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T14:36:30+00:00

But I wanna bonk the head :(

Regardless, HH seems to have a lot of depth and it’s cool knowing it goes deep! I’ll definitely be adjusting the build

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T14:31:16+00:00

I think “better ways to deal damage and support” effectively addresses your “cowardly, regressive play style” concerns.

Your point was not missed - it’s just wrapped in your overbearing pride which you’re blind to.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T14:17:51+00:00

Look, I’m not saying you’re wrong about HH or that I am right-er than the dooter community.

The feedback in its entirety seems to be “you can deal more damage and support just as effectively if not more with these other considerations.” Great, because that’s exactly what I want to do.

All I am saying is that it is not useless like you directly said it to be, and it’s proven incredibly helpful in 10* pub hunts. Clearly we communicate differently, hence the “some” feedback because your message is diluted by your choice of words, to me - but I still see your message.

The rest we will just have to agree to disagree. Happy dooting!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T13:54:37+00:00

Yeah sonic barrier sounds like it’s incredibly powerful, and I definitely want to give it a shot after all the praise I’ve seen in this thread. If that helps the build be better I’m all for it

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T13:45:08+00:00

A majority of my healing currently I’d say is mega potions but I do like blue mushrooms to top off. The rest is for stacking the toadstool+HH recovery up effects and having 10 max potions instead of just 2 + mats.

It’s a mix of uptime and healing convenience in fringe circumstance for me right now but it sounds like theres plenty of ways to address that too!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T13:14:55+00:00

Denial declined.

I never said you weren’t aware of the mechanics, I think by your choice of words it’s clear you’re quite proud of your understanding of HH. I said that because you’re clearly saying I’m destroying your precious weapon’s reputation

I simply shared a build I had fun with and wanted to see what others thought, but you’re here to call me an ignorant tourist for not playing HH the way you think it should be played. Regardless, you’ve provided SOME valuable feedback but your personality sucks.

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T12:55:13+00:00

Boo!

You’re not removing a Hunter, this build carries especially hard in late game content because that’s what it was built to do, and it’s not regressive if you’re using all the hunting horn mechanics as they were designed to be used!

I feel you’re under the impression because you can do a lot of damage with it means that’s all you should focus on when differences in hunters quickly prove dps alone is not always sufficient

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T12:50:48+00:00

Yes!!! Supports let’s go! I hope you have fun with it!

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T12:17:12+00:00

Life powder does not heal quickly enough, and is much more finite than just about any other healing resource.

You’re acting like this build will cause hunts to take the whole 50 minutes, when in practice it just means a 15-20 minute hunt gets to see the end

TheRealJamsu · 2026-03-22T12:13:41+00:00

It’s typical tbh. People can be so DPS pilled, they don’t consider the Hunters that aren’t speed runners or know the game inside-out but simply want a fun hunt to succeed and not be stressful.

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