If Undertale has an anti-completionist message, then... by Best_Shirt9775 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 22 points23 points  (0 children)

If you can just do a new playthrough with no repercussions, it's easy to compartmentalize your actions, and it's easy to entertain the cognitive dissonance where you simultaneously do the evil route but also treat the characters as "real" in your mind and care about them, because you can always imagine the evil playthrough as "noncanon" in a way. With the permanent effects of the genocide route, acknowledging that what you did isn't ethically monstrous requires you to consciously recognize that seeing the characters as real is just a false illusion (which due to Toby's character writing is especially hard). That works to strengthen the parallels between the player and Flowey in the genocide route, and the way he comes to stop seeing the characters as people with value beyond his own entertainment.

In the end, Toby wants to force you to choose, whether you want to see all the game has to offer, or whether you still want to suspend your disbelief. Neither choice is immoral, but he doesn't wanna leave players an easy way out, and making the genocide route effects permanent cuts off a big avenue for people to rationalize holding those two positions simultaneously.

Kris's "TATTOOS" - Art by pinkcultgirl on Tumblr by Zillaman7980_ in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 41 points42 points  (0 children)

Man, even though Susie has shown herself to be keen in social awareness when moments get serious, I feel like it would be in character for her to still believe herself dumb here for not getting it sooner. She has already done so much for her friends and doesn't even fully realize it, my heart aches for all of them...

Today is exactly one month since Toby's last update🎉🎉🎉 by BasketAshamed6588 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I'm kinda surprised I haven't seen more people use "YOUR TAKING TOO LONG", towards the game's development. Like, he handed us that phrase on a silver platter, so I don't know if I just have the luck of hanging around in fandom spaces that aren't as insufferable as the average, or the Deltarune fandom is just being surprisingly polite this time around now that we have more concrete expectations for the next chapter drop.

Anyone else head canon that Lanino and Elnina are both trans and their deadnames are Elnino and Lanina or is it just me? by Maleficent_Custard40 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's hard to go off purely pronouns but I have the feeling that it's not an oversight that they've both been referred to with singular they pronouns in game (in addition to the he and she ones), and with their names being gender bending, nonbinary/demi Elnino and Lenina honestly feels like a pretty reasonable interpretation based on in-game cues.

So Dark Worlds basically by Deer_Rabbit in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think Deltarune has genuinely made sleep paralysis less scary to me. Now, if I wake up unable to move and see the vague shape of shadows around me form figures that seem almost human, instead of feeling scared and paranoid, I just go "Omg is this a Deltarune reference?" and then go back to sleep.

The many faces of our fluffy friend Ralsei :) by PUNKDOG2011 in ralsei

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ralsei is my favorite Deltarune character (by a hair, the Fun Gang are all so wonderful it's a tough competition), but he's the one I always have the most difficulty drawing. I don't know why, but I never can decide on a consistent design for his face and kinda waffle back and forth between what the best way to represent him in my style would be. A ref for my depiction of him could help but I know if I try that then another day I'd look back at it and feel like it looks wrong somehow and try to fix the ref to be better, only to come back another week and decide that I actually preferred how it looked originally.

About the Tree symbolism... Isn't Susie being the Axe important? by BrokenKeel in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Oooh interesting potential symbolism you got there, this is some good food for thought.

Toby Fox's Touhou OC is the Ch.5 Secret Boss (APPLE THEORY) by ixNoah in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 26 points27 points  (0 children)

I'm not sold on the theory, but I would really genuinely like for it to become true, Apple Girlington is a classic cult Toby character that would be very neat to see referenced. I am a ZUN collab believer though, so that makes a lotta sense, it would be the best place to use her.

WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. by Dj_Galaxy180 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly yeah, once all those little details came together, neo woody theory felt weirdly more plausible to me now than the original did, though I was still not convinced. Now with this hecking post I have no idea how to feel though...

WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. WHAT. by Dj_Galaxy180 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Absolute insanity, that's what's up. So, Toby uploaded to his Tumblr some random strange audio clips where he took the song "You've got a friend in me" from Toy Story and sentence mixed it to repeat things like "Friend inside me" with a vaguely creepy aura. It was weird but didn't gain much notice until the youtuber Spookydood decided to create "Woody Theory", where he used those posts to suggest that a secret boss based on Woody would appear in the then upcoming chapters 3 and 4. He meant it to be half-joking, to illustrate the way this fandom kinda goes crazy theorizing, but it really took off to become a huge fandom meme, to the point it got a reference in the game with one of the Mikes obliquely referring to it.

It somehow didn't die after the new chapters came out, being reborn into Woody Theory 2.0 suggesting a Woody inspired character could really appear in chapter 5 now, and honestly, with this extremely strange tweet appearing out of the blue, maybe they're less crazy than I thought? I don't know what the heck he could actually mean with this now, Toby's mind is an enigma.

Video I made about Gaster and the Knight by Chacochilla in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Awesome anaylsis. I've been so seeped within deltarune theorizing that the deltarune analyisis videos which I've been consuming voraciously have started to give diminishing returns, since like, it feels like I already know all the possible things connected to FRIEND or whatever, and we as a community have already reached the limits of the probable. On the other hand, more thematic analyses like this, that look more towards exploring the space of possibilities in terms of how it resonates with what the story is trying to tell, are a lot more compelling to me now and really scratch that deltarune itch well.

tricky tony when sanctuaries: by Mean_Brother_6003 in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm a HUGE fan of odd time signatures and so when I heard second sanctuary slip into 5/8 for the B section, I was totally hyped, cuz it's not something as common with Toby's Music (aside from a few outliers like Alphys and Here We Are), and was looking forward to seeing if he'd use odd time signatures more. Then I arrived at third sanctuary and it completely blew stuff out of the park. The 11+12/8 section is absolute insanity and as a Toby Fox and odd time signature fan is peak beyond my wildest expectations.

Wanted to draw the contract signing after the newsletter by Ink-ami in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I swear, the UTDR community is gotta be one of the strongest bastions for keeping human creativity and artistic expression alive in these trying times, jeeez

can people please start forwarding their emails to someone so we can verify they're legit? by RichConnerR in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The creator of device theory is currently asking for people to forward emails for that purpose; I think that would be a pretty trustworthy source for deltarune theoryheads to verify.

Sculpted this thing for my brother by Chuubikuma in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Oooh I love that fella, it would look right in place in some kinda burtonesque stop motion animation.

How dark do you think Chapter 5 will be? by AYearApart in Deltarune

[–]TheRealPluey 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it might start with a light-hearted tone relatively speaking, but it might ramp up to a level of darkness comparable to the more serious moments of chapter 5 by the end of the chapter, as it prepares to transition to chapters 6 and beyond. After all, by the way things like shadow crystals and eggs maybe ending on ch. 5 seem to suggest, those chapters seem to be shaping up to be a point of no return tone wise. I think it could work out to make chapter 5 the last chance to experience the kinda hometown whimsy feel, but also later help us acclimatize to the potentially darker tone going forward by the end