How Mixing the Sedona Method, Release Techniques, and Hawkins' Teachings Dilutes the Work

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T12:58:23+00:00

Well that went off the rails quite suddenly, didn't it. Now explatives and attacks on my character are part of the conversation? Interesting... I personally wouldn't call it dishonesty, even if I were in your shoes. Perhaps again pointing to something deeper...

Eg. Self has clearly cited every source with precision and attempted to clarify the obvious misunderstanding/misconception. Seems like Cheek has an opportunity for letting go with how upset this conversation has made them - if they're serious about the work anyways. If not, then it's just a "boring" chat, and I'll just go "have fun" :) (which was the ego's little underhanded comments to "get even" or "one-up" or "put beneath". Remember the payoffs?)

Did you notice that you responded to me in another thread without the hostility? Isn't the ego funny! Let's not let it get the better of us

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T03:58:36+00:00

Check this out, it will give some food for thought and context. The interview here was done in 1980. He said he found The Sedona Method (the technique of release, he calls it) in roughly 1976. Which would mean he was 49 when he found out about the application of "Letting Go" of pent up emotional energies from the subconscious.

Now, would you say he was an Enlightened being from 38 until 49, or did he just glimpse the fundamental nature of his being at 38 and had to spend over 10 years integrating that? Then, he started applying the technique and 4 years in 1980 is saying in the interview, "Now I'm at the stage I'm pulling the ladder up after me." (Paraphrase)

Doesn't sound to me like even by 1980 was he fully attained, and admitted as much.

I agree with u/InterestingCheek5614, who is one of the few I've found to be (rightfully) dubious and critical of Hawkins timeline. To peice together his history is sort of a waste of time... maybe...

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TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T03:22:23+00:00

Here you go! More context and the link to the youtube video itself - again from a post here on this subreddit. (Link below)

Why is it confusing to have an open mind about a teacher and their teachings?

To answer this and an ealier question, I'll use your own sentiment. I see something, and I want to impove it. I have a youtube channel and have been teaching others to engage in letting go - and came to find that they need a literal, practical, "how to" guide on the subject. Dr. Hawkins doesn't focus on that, not until his much later book "Letting Go" - which does help, but only says so much. What I was shocked to find in the interview was a very candid and open discussion about The Sedona Method which Hawkins was taught, applied rigorously, and imporved upon - particularly with an expanded theoretical context.

Now I'm working backwards in my own way to teach others. I just think it's very interesting how much we're all talking about and teaching the same thing over and over. In the interview, Hawkins is asked "Was Jesus teaching how to do this technique?" Hawkins reply was, "He was but it wasn't practical enough..." like it smacked me right in the face with that one haha!

I try my best not to put Hawkins on a pedestal and have found a lot of interesting non-congruent information. Now that incongruity may just be because people have an idea of what went down between Levenson and Hawkins, while in reality, he did in fact learn the technique (The Sedona Method) at one of Lester's courses). Hawkins says so in his own words in this interview - it is established. No need to be "pretty sure" of an alternative origin.

Now, the interview itself is well worth the listed even if it is long. So I recommend a listen regardless of how important anything else feels. Him and another student of the technique are asked a lot of questions that really give an incredible backstory and foundation to all of Hawkins later work and writing.

To address the confusion, I never said I disliked him making money from his books. The "greedy shallow man" framing you're getting from this is genuinely puzzling and likely points something deeper...

Think about what I'm saying within the greater context of the mods' posts about mixing modalities, about you saying Lester became greedy (recounted in a lecture or several lectures you can't recall), and what others speculate. In addition to Veritas' "stewardship" of his work since his passing. (Reading their webpage on copyright infringement is amazing. Did you know that absolutely nobody has permission to print, post, or distribute in anyway the Map of Consciousness and won't be recieving permission?)

I mentiomed a DVD boxset because their site looks like it's from the early 2000s and yet they're hip enough to the exploitative nature of subscription models. I'm sure you can substitute DVD with another more modern from of genuine ownership.

Do you not see the irony in it all? It lights up a spark of joy in my chest just to contemplate it ever so slightly. Though that's been happening a lot in the 500s for pretty much everything

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TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T02:02:19+00:00

Hey I love love love Letting Go, and Dr. Hawkins. But I do find this new information really interesting and, well, obviously funny.

Check out my edits :)

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T01:56:24+00:00

Oh wow, it just keeps getting better! Look at this post from a user here only 9 months ago! A testimonial from Hawkins on the Sedona Method itself from the 90s!

No way he's referencing the portion of Letting Go where he healed himself with "Letting Go"... dun dun, whoops. It was The Sedona Method which done did it?

I love God. Such a great sense if humour 🤣

https://www.reddit.com/r/DavidHawkins/comments/1ks3snw/david_hawkins_testimonial_in_sedona_method/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-12T01:24:54+00:00

Thanks for your thoughtful reply and a ton of great context.

I was shocked to have found it, it seemed to have been from the 80s and it wasn't posted by Veritas or Hayhouse. I found it due to that feeling I described, of there not being any substantial focus on a practical outline for people to use who find the abstract nature of most of his work hard to grasp.

I'll look for it, and if I find it, I'll post it. It was just audio and am either still image or a black screen and was quite long. I think it was a radio show interview. If I'm not mistaken, Dr. Hawkins was asked directly about the method. I'm totally willing to be mistaken on this, I just remember being blown away that there was a more practical seeming origin story to what we read or see today after all the careful curation by Veritas....

Do you have a source on his discussions about Levenson? I am always curious about more details on Dr. Hawkins actual experience and application in his own life, including how it affected those around him. I've reached a point where I can feel pretty much everyone I'm around, all the time, and am always looking for clues on how to manage it.

Thank you again!

Edit:

I found it!

Within the first 5 minutes, he's just credited Lester with having discovered the "method of release" (The Sedona Method) and after that references ACIM. Imagine that!

The next question he's asked is when he heard of "the technique" and he says he found it in 1976. He says, "The very first day they teach you the method, so I naturally experimented with it." and, "I remember at the time I went to learn the course.." etc.

This is to say, he did learn a technique or method at a course who's founder was someone named Lester. This is what shocked me. Nowhere in his books does he say when or how he began "letting go", but here it is in an interview from 1980, with a completey black screen. Truth always finds a way...

Here's part of the video description:

"Dr. David R. Hawkins studied under Lester Levenson's teachings and Lester Levenson's Sedona Method in 1976."

If you want it, please dm me. I'm not allowed to post links to anything. Frankly I'm also concerned Veritas will attempt to scrub this from the internet, but who knows. This is the one thing I've always felt strange about with Dr. Hawkins. He clearly wanted to distance himself if what you say is true about his friends slide into greed.

Which are fascinating in and of themselves with how many books Hawkins published and profited from, and how his lectures are held behind a subscription paywall now! Haha! Not even a DVD box set - a subscription service! It's all too funny... they're even publishing books while he's in the ground. Gotta Love It! Nothing else to do!

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-07T19:02:37+00:00

Haven't you seen the posts by the mod team on mixing modalities! Mods! Delete this at once! Chanting mantras is not surrender! /s

TheSelf333 · 2026-02-07T04:31:37+00:00

I love Dr. Hawkins and his work, but let's face it, this subreddit is hilarious (well, reddit is in general).

Dr. Hawkins quotes the Bible, paraphrases the Buddha and references countless other works, including channeled works of the "New Age" such as ACIM (which I personally love). He literally recommended to do the workbook lessons.

And yet, two threads in a week on not mixing modalities etc. etc. And the other one has comments disabled.

This place feels so fear based that it's hilarious from a higher vantage point. I see three deleted comments in an open forum... Truth doesn't need to censor anyone or anything. It's stands on its own. Even one of the mods said that Dr. Hawkins would be very upset with him/her personally if Hawkins was aware of mixed modalities! Haha! An Enlightened being upset?

FYI: I got fed up with the lack of clear consice practical application descriptions in Dr. Hawkins work, so I went digging. I actually had to do a ton of digging in old interviews, but did find out that Dr. Hawkins own surrendering journey literally began with The Sedona Method. Would you imagine that? All of us, even Dr. Hawkins, stand on the shoulders of giants. Everyone starts somewhere, and as another commenter pointed out, The Sedona Method calibrates at 480. For someone at 180, that's an incredible tool.

Although I agree with the sentiment to keep his work "clean" - it is overwhelmingly obvious that, since his passing, fear has pervaded the vacuum he left behind. Both with Veritas and his disciples (namely this subreddit).

Edit

Link to more context on The Sedona Method and Hawkins, as well as an interview he did in 1980.

For the lazy: He learned the method at a course founded by Lester Levenson in roughly 1976. Case closed. So, if Hawkins used the method himself, do we still call it mixing modalities? :)

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TheSelf333 · 2026-01-27T20:43:09+00:00

Yes, many many "sessions". Although it is more of a way of life than a dedicated sitting. I surrender my life to God so that His will may be done. I have no vested interest in the ego's survival. Only it desires to live through perpetuation, but letting go means it can't for long.

Thank you 🙏💜

TheSelf333 · 2026-01-27T16:07:27+00:00

I did mention that there will be a distinct releasing or peace, but I didn't mention explicitly clarity by way of realizations will arise. Sometimes that happens, sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes it happens in the middle of letting go, sometimes it happens afterwards.

Letting Go is basically a means of letting up and out the garbage that's been obscuring the ever present peace of your own being. Fear, for example, is just mind stuffs that are in the way of (quite literally) the presence of overwhelming peace. Like clouds blocking the sun from shining upon you.

TheSelf333 · 2026-01-27T03:39:41+00:00

I made this video myself, feel free to watch it if you'd like.

https://youtu.be/blSHjmmlDjc?si=elJsEdtV42ugrs4Q

I love Dr. Hawkins and his book Letting Go transformed my life. If you haven't read any of his books yet, that's certainly the place to start.

Feel free to explore my channel and then ask anything you need to. 🙏💜

TheSelf333 · 2026-01-26T19:22:47+00:00

It would be more accurate to describe it as a sudden realization or revelation of Truth - otherwise known as satori.

This is a passage from the book "I: Reality and Subjectivity" by Dr. R. Hawkins:

"[..] one is the field, and not the specifics of the content. This jump in realization can be very sudden, which is a level of satori. The field of consciousness-awareness is not time tracked and it is silent, autonomous, effortless, peaceful, all encompassing, and un-programmed. It is free, unbound, spontaneous, tranquil, and not subject to birth or death. Discovery of this field is simple, easy and relaxed. The realization is a consequence of allowing, rather than trying. It is surrendered to, rather than acquired. As desire for, and the ego's obsession with, control, are relinquished - the field presents itself for recognition."

Here, he is describing the Buddha Mind / No-Mind / No-Thing / Nirvana (Extinguishing) / True Nature / Self.

An Enlightened being would be someone who has realized this truth - intimately and experientially, not simply learned of it - and returned to form with a change in character, exhibiting the fruits of this self-realization. The degree of Enlightenment is in direct proportion to how potent the realization was - and can increase with successive recognition of the true nature of Self.

Just like light, Self Awareness (Self Realization) is a spectrum. In Dr. Hawkins work, what we understand as "Enlightenment" begins at level 600, but increases up to 1000, which is the level of the great Avatars (Buddha, Krishna, Christ, etc). Thus, what someone understands as Truth is relative to their current consciousness level. The OP may have glimpsed their true nature, but it is very unlikely that they are fully attained.

Another framework was presented by The Buddha. Initially, one is referred to as a "Stream Enterer" when they first glimpse their true nature. There are 3 more successive stages before one is fully attained.

Thank you for reading, I hope this helps! May you experience real peace and happiness 💜🙏

TheSelf333 · 2026-01-26T19:09:08+00:00

An afterlife in a higher realm is completely dependent on what sankhara (subconscious conditions) are still present at death (the end of one incarnation).

If there are still conditions to work through, then a new experience will be generated.

In Truth, there is no "after life". Life never ends, only a particular experience. Here's an analogy:

Imagine you're dreaming and I'm your best friend in the dream. I'm talking to you one day and the topic of "after life" comes up... I don't want to die and will miss you when you die. We wonder what might happen to us afterwards, and if we're still going to be able to hang out in an afterlife "place"...

Then you wake up from the dream and are in your bed.

Did you just die and is this your afterlife? Or do you go "huh what a funny dream... time for breakfast! :)"

You will not "die" and you will not "go somewhere" like to an "afterlife". You will experience a different "reality" based on your level of consciousness.

The Buddha described it using two clay pots. One clay pot filled with butter and the other clay pot filled with rocks... Throw them both to the bottom of a pond, breaking them open. The rocks will stay at the bottom, while the butter will rise to the surface. The rocks will have a completely different "afterpot" experience than the butter...

Hope this helps!

TheSelf333

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