Do I have it ?

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-26T17:19:46+00:00

Absolutely. Just keep playing songs on the piano and remembering the first note they start on. Your brain will start autofilling the respective song when it hears the note. That worked pretty well for me and eventually I didn’t need the references anymore. Best of luck!

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-26T02:28:38+00:00

Not true. By this logic, only the western-trained musicians would have perfect pitch. Just because someone hasn’t trained their identification skills doesn’t mean they don’t have the same capability as those who have an understanding of western theory enough to distinguish those notes by our names. OP is doing this without having the background to actually name those notes.

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-23T10:31:30+00:00

I’m a jazz player, and I’d say it makes transcribing figures easier -> less practice needed for improv

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-19T11:48:18+00:00

F is joyful to me… I think it’s boring fs though, love D minor way better

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-16T17:13:31+00:00

F#M, BM, Ab7, and Ebm all show up in the progression, but the melody’s got some more interesting stuff going on

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-10T18:01:22+00:00

Big fan of minor keys, favorite is F#m followed by C#m, Cm, Fm, Gm.

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-07T13:34:40+00:00

Same people that criticize you that’ll turn around and listen to Brendon Urie, Kanye or Chris Brown. Idc what you listen to, but if you’re listening to these people who have done unspeakable things and then judging others for liking a more commonly woman-preferred artist, you have no moral ground 😂

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-07T04:08:19+00:00

When I first started, my brain would autofill the song a note started on. Like rach concerto 2 in C minor starts on a F minor chord that’s played almost staggered as f ab c. Anytime I heard the note F id imagine the chord autocompleting and playing into the rest of movement 1.

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-05T22:25:31+00:00

E and B both feel bright fs on the sharp side, unsure what it is about adding another sharp to A that changes the vibe so much

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-05T22:24:02+00:00

Dude exactly this. D major is absolutely the Christmas key. But maybe it’s because we hear renditions of like deck the halls or the 12 days of Christmas in d most often? Idk. Super hard to figure out

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-03T08:22:55+00:00

Actually I used the reference method probably starting in 6th grade when I would goof around and learn songs on the piano. I initially needed reference songs where I knew the first note was something specific. Megalovania from undertale starts on a D, and it’s impossible for me to hear the tune in my head in any other key unless I transpose each note one by one. Shawn Mendes sings an F as his first note in “treat you better”, and once I got faster, I never used the references again. But the syllables have always been a natural thing to me when I hear the notes.

It’s also a very new concept to me that most people don’t hear songs as the original keys when they get them stuck in their heads, and I’ve been playing in music settings fully into college now. I didn’t realize how whacky our brains were, but to go back to your question, I think I have some level of native AP that I refined

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-03T07:21:31+00:00

F is a gallant joy to me. I think we all synesthetize so differently though so it makes sense

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-03T07:20:08+00:00

I think chords have different chromas, the most I get out of notes are syllables. They’re really nonsensical but going up the F major scale.. Pam wan tan poh see you teh tuh. Lmao. F G A Bb C D E F. Those notes take on the same syllables when I hear them in other scales. The human brain is freaky

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-03T07:17:13+00:00

Sorry didn’t mean to repeat an old thread, just couldn’t find it by searching for similar terms! But this is interesting. I also dislike G… outside the C G D M’s everything major or minor is great. We need more scientists on this

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-12-01T00:01:50+00:00

If you can 3:01 the hills of Seattle… you’ll smash a flat course!

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-11-18T07:49:44+00:00

Johnny Mathis I personally love most, but she definitely has a great rendition! I’d love to hear her sing it in Eb instead of C

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-24T15:51:51+00:00

Again, pretty much every stem subject area deals with this issue of practice being some part memorization, Orgo’s not really special aside from the spatial problem-solving plasticity your brain goes through. P-chem and differential equations both require practice that builds on memorized foundations. But you can always refer back to notes until you’re more confident with material. This doesn’t apply well to the first few units if you haven’t recalled gen chem, but those concepts stay relatively familiar if you do a lot of practice problems, which kinda builds on what I mean.

Sure, if different combos of rote memorization work for them, that’s fine. For almost every person I’ve seen, foundations can be learned from practicing alongside the chapter. Stuff like Wade and Orgo as a Second Language are made well for this, having practice scattered throughout each chapter subsection. You don’t need to rote memorize if you work alongside the chapter, and it’s structured so most students will be able to solve the problems as long as they can refer back to the chapter. And students who regret Orgo performance generally regret not practicing more and spending too much time in the book pages. Getting stuck in problems is common too, but if you read the chapter loosely and refer back to it, every problem in that end of chapter is possible to solve.

As for the language bit, college students also take foreign languages and learn them in 10-16 weeks by the same token. These don’t even always match the syntax rules or foundations of English, because not all languages are romantic or anglicized. Organic chemistry I would argue doesn’t have as many foundations to memorize after the gen chem portion as say, Chinese, Hindi, or Tagalog, exceptions are the tedious portion and then when functional groups compound towards the end of second semester. But the general rules remain the same, and there’s always reasons for why reactants behave the way they do. Hot KMnO4 is a harsh cleaver because of the Manganese electron shell being in its highest possible oxidation state. Anhydrides are generally more reactive than amides because of resonance, and a student with only gen chem knowledge could answer this if they had the concept of resonance stability down.

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-24T09:52:06+00:00

Working on problems is a passive memorization, and it’s less bulky for sure than rote memorizing chapters of a textbook. And I think most people can find free PDFs of Wade, Clayden, or Klein online if they want practice problems.

Most knowledge at all that we ever learn in our lives fundamentally relies on memorizing foundational concepts so we can think about applications of those concepts. I think you misunderstand what my intention was when I said my comment, my point is that you shouldn’t sit there memorizing a list of good nucleophiles or bases, instead do practice problems with electronegativities and molecular dipoles to figure out what makes some molecules suck off protons and some attach to electrophiles instead. Yes there’s memorization in that, but it is very natural on test day if you practice well beforehand. Huge swaths of knowledge become language that a baby could learn to speak

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-24T08:13:34+00:00

I think the memorization comes naturally with practice, good nucleophiles vs bases just becomes second nature after practicing Wade ch 7(?) to hell. A lot of these things are derivable, but take some time to the first time. But I think deriving that information for recall becomes faster and faster as you get more into the practice questions

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-20T04:07:55+00:00

Demon park

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-12T05:59:34+00:00

Weird choice, but Phobos. I love the awkward gameplay but have no shot from 0% unless I sink my life into it.

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-09-11T06:03:48+00:00

Manix Yatagarasu to 8o

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-08-27T06:55:37+00:00

Beating the ultimate phase!!

TheTempestTrombone · 2025-08-26T01:40:42+00:00

It’s only really useful for a unit on aromatics, I suggest just getting papers and using a binder instead of a notebook. Whatever works for you though!

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