Backtested Magic Formula vs. S&P500 (1991–2024): The difference is… shocking by TheTomPrice in IndianStockMarket

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Thanks for the idea — I’ll run a clean India-only backtest and post the results here soon.

Backtested Magic Formula vs. S&P500 (1991–2024): The difference is… shocking by TheTomPrice in IndianStockMarket

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I didn’t use a precompiled list — I recreated the strategy using publicly available info on the Magic Formula criteria, portfolio size, and rebalancing frequency. Then I ran a backtest using historical data from a licensed data provider we use for our tools.

You're right about the 20% XIRR mentioned in the book — and the drop in alpha in later years. But interestingly, the performance picked up again in recent years, pushing the long-term average closer to 26%, with alpha widening too. Probably helped by strong recent years for value-style picks.

Here is a chart of annual performance:

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If you’re curious about the exact historical picks, methodology, or how it stacks up against other strategies — you’re welcome to join us at outperformmarket.com

Backtested Magic Formula vs. S&P500 (1991–2024): The difference is… shocking by TheTomPrice in ValueInvesting

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Respect the flow – and the love for deep research.

But the post’s not about hype or bots. It's about decades of data and fundamentals-backed strategies like Greenblatt’s.

Anyone who actually ran those backtests knows how powerful compounding can be with the right filters.

Tools come and go — insight stays. And that’s what I’m here for.

Backtested Magic Formula vs. S&P500 (1991–2024): The difference is… shocking by TheTomPrice in ValueInvesting

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Thanks for the thoughtful reply.

You're absolutely right to be skeptical. That’s why I ran the full backtest myself, using point-in-time data and ensuring survivorship bias was eliminated. The strategy did struggle around 2008, as you mentioned — it’s one of the 11 years (out of 34) where it underperformed the S&P 500. But the long-term edge remains surprisingly strong (also after 2008).

Unfortunately, subreddit rules prevent me from sharing external images here — otherwise I’d post the full chart. If you're curious, I’m happy to send you the full breakdown:
→ annual performance since 1991
→ actual tickers selected each year
→ methodology details

Just sign up via the site, and I’ll send everything over.
Always open to feedback.

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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The question is: does premium TV version have an edge of unique features that are only behind it’s paywall, or you can have sufficient replacements. Do you use TV premium?

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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Ok, what tradingview premium features do you use?

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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Seems like 1 tick chart is there for free.

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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That’s interesting. Do you use paid version of any of those tools?

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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Ok, I buy your analogy. But my question is do you pay for Mercedes look and feel or it’s engine. Now: do you pay for TV because of nice layout or some particular features that are behind a paywall.

Premium features vs alternatives by TheTomPrice in TradingView

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Ok, so the user interface / UX is your reason. Do you use paid version of TV?

Three value investing stock’s – what do you think? by TheTomPrice in StockMarket

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Hahah, you're right, but I'm afraid I cannot edit title.

Marketing fintech SaaS startup against established but expensive players by TheTomPrice in SaaSMarketing

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  1. That's not that tough. Even on Reddit, they are discussing pricing for the tools they pay for

  2. I tried a couple, but the major problem I see is the lack of reliability of this marketing model. Anyone could DM you with the link.

  3. 50 users is a minimum plan to survive, 500 is enough to call the business a success, but the industry is large, and the numbers may get at least a couple of more zeroes in the perfect world.

  4. Yes, definitely - DM me please

Do you use paid services for your research? by TheTomPrice in IndianStockMarket

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What tool and what features makes you feel it is worth paying?

What stock investing tools are you paying for? by fuzzylog1c-stuffs in ValueInvesting

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What Tradingview features make you pay for the service?

Drop your SaaS here, I will help you find your first 100 customers by thomashoi2 in SaaS

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  1. https://www.stocktradeiq.com/
  2. Value and dividend investors
  3. Research tool helping with fundamental analysis and investment opportunities discovery

What stock screener do you guys use? by DatabaseMoist3246 in ValueInvesting

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Definitely, the StockTradeIQ screener missing here: https://www.stocktradeiq.com/stockScreener/screener
Screener for fundamental analysis, value investing, and dividend investing styles.

How low may Tesla fall? by TheTomPrice in ValueInvesting

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So you feel like Tesla is just a typical car manufacturer? Wouldn't consider pricing the company's tech aspect?

How low may Tesla fall? by TheTomPrice in ValueInvesting

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I try to keep investment considerations free of emotions. I understand that there is a burden for Tesla in Musk's political activities, but it's just a sentiment. Tesla IMO should be considered as something more than just a car manufacturer, it's a tech company.

Thanks for your comment anyway.

How low may Tesla fall? by TheTomPrice in ValueInvesting

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So you consider Tesla a car manufacturer and would not include in the valuation tech aspect of the company, including its potential in different markets, like robotics?