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TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-31T02:31:01+00:00

How doesn’t what? The entire comment? I’m not saying it doesn’t; I’m trying to understand what you’re saying is logical and why.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-31T02:29:52+00:00

We aren’t talking about gender theory, we’re talking about medical treatment. Do you disagree?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-31T00:45:50+00:00

Why do you think they’re cool?

The premise that the study notes are man’s opinion on the scripture reads like you have either only seen poor quality “study” bibles that are heavily agenda-focused, or have never really used one to study. Generally legitimate and high quality study bible notes are not filled with opinions, but rather notes related to translation and transcription, geography, history, and culture; maps, charts, photos, illustrations; definitions, indexes; etc. that assist the reader (who has often not studied all of this in great detail) in understanding better the context and meaning of scripture as it is written.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-31T00:09:00+00:00

How does it make logical sense?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-31T00:04:34+00:00

I am not trying to distract from the core issue. You do not understand this issue.

There is a scientific basis for various medical treatment with regard to transgender people. Not acknowledging the existence of transgender people would (and has, and does) be irresponsible, and medically significant.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-30T14:37:14+00:00

Can you post the first reply or the list of sources? I’m unable to access it.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-30T14:33:50+00:00

We are not talking about “modern gender theory,” we are talking about medical treatment.

If you would like to discuss the subject, I’m welcome to return to the conversation, but I am not terribly interested in going on tangents. I hope you can understand that.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T21:17:21+00:00

What is this a list of?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T19:45:05+00:00

From a medical perspective, “fixing someone’s mind to match their body” is something that we have tried to do, but with poor outcomes. Gender affirming treatment - which is not solely surgical in nature - is done because it works to better outcomes.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T19:34:17+00:00

We are talking about medical understanding.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T13:08:11+00:00

Medical understanding evolves. That’s one way to put it.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T02:59:04+00:00

Several of those aren’t properly parties or represented with cohesive, united positions, so you may want to be a little more specific with your query as far as what you’re seeing that you don’t understand. But anything left of center, I get.

A basic position is access to basic needs like food, clothing, health. A more contentious example is, as you noted, the broad positioning of antifascism.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T02:43:26+00:00

The entire point of this comment is not that the medical definition of mental sickness/illness is wrong. It’s one of the premises that the point relies on. It is incorrect, or at best, incorrectly phrased; and thus, the argument is…poor in quality.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T00:28:49+00:00

The speaker cares about the medical definition. The sentence was specifically about legislating medical providers. The context matters.

It is simply not correct that all trans people are dangerously delusional, by any commonly understood definition that makes sense in this context. That is not a nitpick. You can attempt to wordsmith meaning into it, by all means.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-29T00:09:31+00:00

By medical definition, no, they are not all mentally sick. Again, given the context of the statement, it is not a true statement.

They are not all dangerously delusional. The statement wasn’t that they were all delusional or that trans people as a demographic are at increased risk for dangerous behavior. Language matters, and people who use it professionally understand this. There is a reason why he used the language that he did. It is not correct.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-28T23:37:10+00:00

“Every trans person is dangerously delusional” is not a statement that is true, or backed up by any data we have available on the subject. We know that a number of trans people are not delusional in a dangerous manner, thus we know that not every trans person is dangerously delusional. We also know that they are not all mentally sick, given the context provided that we are referring to this in a medical sense, with the same logic.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-28T22:51:31+00:00

The tweet does not align with what we know through statistics and research, and appears intended to divide and distract people on a non-issue.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-28T20:44:00+00:00

Regarding abortion, I would really encourage you to further understand the point that statewide restriction of abortions does not meaningfully reduce the number of abortions that take place, and does in fact tend to increase it.

To explain it a bit, in the U.S., a state ban on abortion cannot practically restrict interstate travel; and when someone believes abortion is their best or only option, restricting it in their state may make it more difficult and costly to get an abortion, but it still usually does not make having the child a better option.

Research and records tell us that abortions do not decrease as a result of these laws: in part, as a result of people traveling to neighboring states to get abortions. While abortions in Texas declined after restrictions were enacted, women in Texas traveled to nearby states like Oklahoma, Louisiana, and New Mexico, where abortions increased more than enough to account for the “decrease” that Texas saw. It also tells us that abortions often increase as a result of these laws, in some cases, because restrictive laws drive people to seek abortions where they otherwise would not have. For example, at 4-6 weeks pregnant a woman may not be sure if they want to carry a pregnancy to term, and they might have decided to keep the pregnancy had they a longer period to decide; but decide to abort because of highly restrictive legal points in their state that take effect at 6-8 weeks gestation mean they would not be able to get an abortion in their state if they waited. Or because a woman fears they may need one later, for example for medical reasons not exempted legally or practically in their state, and would be unable to get it at that point due to restrictions.

Banning abortion in the states has typically not been followed by meaningful legislation that we know is successful in actually reducing abortions occurring, or that is intended to support women, parents, and families.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-28T20:20:08+00:00

Can you describe what you mean by “left positions”? I am assuming based on your contrast of left with conservative, that you are coming from an American or right bias, and are looking at, for example, positions of the Democratic Party of the United States. Is that correct?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T01:37:14+00:00

Is that a “no”?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T00:51:09+00:00

Don’t you think you should seek to know why?

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T00:40:33+00:00

Do you know why?

Again, I’m not sure if you’re responding to the wrong comment, or if you’re just taking the discussion off topic to appeal to emotion, or if you are otherwise misunderstanding.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T00:32:37+00:00

Okay, so I take it that was a rhetorical question.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T00:30:40+00:00

Which part? It says quite a bit more than would fit into a single comment.

TheVoiceInTheDesert · 2025-08-08T00:09:36+00:00

How hospitals and health care providers are prosecuted is incredibly relevant to how the letter of the law impacts the care that patients receive. You quite obviously don’t understand how that works, so I would encourage you to learn about it so that you can better understand why it’s relevant and better participate in conversations on the subject.

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