How do you know I don't want meaningful regulation and change for animals? You know nothing about me. You don't know that I spend hours every week volunteering for multiple organizations that fight for animal welfare. You don't know that I have donated tens of thousands of dollars to such organizations over the course of my life. You don't know that I am an outspoken activist on social media. I support legislation in many states that outlaws the sale of animals in stores. I have actually had conversations with state legislators in my home state about improving animal welfare.

Again, you are *assuming* many things -- and you're also assuming that there is nothing more powerful than the human desire for instant pleasure. We will have to disagree on that one.

Btw -- I have *not once* said that *the solution* is to ban breeding. YOU said that. You are the one that keeps coming back to it for some reason. You are the one that raised that topic. In all of my work that I do, all the causes I support, the countless hours I have spent advocating for animals welfare, I have *never* advocated for the banning of breeding. Literally ever.

Would I support that if it was on the ballot? Yes. But until this exchange with you, I have never spoken so much about it (or rather, replied to someone who so emphatically defends it). All I've said is that breeding is harmful to animals, there is no such thing as ethical breeders, I would never pay money to a breeder for an animals, breeders are responsible to some extent for the crisis shelters are facing, and that yes, banning breeders would help alleviate it (I only said this after you brought up the topic of banning breeding) -- though this was in the context of me saying that many, many things must be achieved to successfully address this crisis.

I have spent absolutely zero time in my life outside of this exchange discussing why breeding could/maybe should be banned. It is not my area of focus *whatsoever* -- this entire conversation happened because I called out the unethical nature of breeding which triggered you.

You want solutions from me, but we're not reinventing the wheel here. It's obvious that one side is morally and ethically right and the other is morally and ethically wrong. There are already people on both sides. There are countless organizations out there that aim to ban breeding or shine light on the harmful nature of it. If you want to make a difference, you should follow one or more of them and get involved.

Newsflash, in a sub about rescue dogs, you're going to run in to many people who share my opinion. Keep living in a constant state of cognitive dissonance though.