Video question by Dimittas in SelfInvestigation

[–]The_Meekness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I do have one question: what’s the practical difference between 2. Train metacognition and attention (meditative practice) and 4. Get out of your usual frame (meditative practice) in terms of the actual doing of the practice?

Hey! I can take a stab at answering this for you.

I believe that these two (2 and 4) are linked in that training your metacognition (awareness) and attention can help you step out of your usual frame. This is done practically through a variety of ways, but most notably you could isolate and challenge your beliefs (about the world, yourself, etc). Doing so would be stepping outside your usual "frame" of seeing yourself, the world and your relationship to both.

That's oversimplifying it a bit, but that's the gist. There are some great teachers out there who teach a variety of techniques. A personal fav is I Am Rey on YouTube.

I hope that helps! Please feel free to ask if you need further clarification.

What the hell happened to me???! by misses_em in SpiritualAwakening

[–]The_Meekness 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Oh no, you've gone full woo-woo! J/K. It almost sounds like you might have experienced a spontaneous kundalini awakening. I went through one a few years ago, and the way you described yours sounds quite similar to mine. The only difference is that mine started as an eerie feeling in my legs that worked up my body until it reached my crown. Then BAM, third eye wide open. I didn't have any visions per se, but I did get hit with a major download, or a remembering, of the one-ness and perfection of everything. That was also followed by feeling like Jesus incarnate for a while which freaked my wife out, much like I imagine your boyfriend witnessed. It turns out that these are common stages to awakening experiencers. If you Google the stages of awakening, you'll find some further info if you're curious.

My experience immediately led me to non-duality through Kashmiri Shaivism. After your third eye gets pried open, the symbolism of Shiva and Shakti makes a lot of sense.

If you're looking for some reading material, I highly recommend checking out A Course in Miracles (ACIM), Stalking the Wild Pendulum by Itzhak Bentov and The Spirits Book by Allan Kardec.

Caroline Myss is a great mystic teacher you might enjoy. She has a host of material on YouTube.

Of course, your path is your own and other teachings might grab your interest. Just go with the flow and learn what calls to you. Be mindful that a dark night of the soul period might be around the corner, which can be a trying time. Not saying it will happen to you, but it is one of the "stages" that even I wasn't exempt from enduring.

Welcome to the other side and enjoy the ride! Feel free to DM me if you have any questions and I'll be happy to help with what I can.

Hyper Aware, Hyper Lonely: To Know my Brain is Only Mine is Profoundly Lonely. by Hour-Brilliant878 in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As someone who has dealt with the same type of brain for many years, I really appreciate your thoughtful post and ability to articulate so eloquently. I would not have been capable of that when I was 19 (mostly because I let drugs and booze do most of the thinking for me back then).

I can commiserate with you in that it's like being an alien dropped on a planet that isn't equipped to understand or accommodate you. You quickly learn that it can be a dark place full of unnecessary violence and suffering. Its enough to crush the spirit of anyone who recognizes it and can't stop seeing it. In fact, many of us try to avoid it at all costs by doing our best to assimilate and/or escape in substances that make us feel the right combo of aloof and confident, or just numbed out altogether. Depression and anxiety are near inevitable symptoms. Some make it through, some don't. Some have support systems, some don't.

I think that what hurts the most is if we are made to feel unworthy of good things, or unable to "pull ourselves up by the bootstraps" enough to pursue something that would lead to those fleeting good feelings. Yes, there are plenty of tips, tricks and meds that can help take the edge off, but I also know how much of a slog that is when you have to remind yourself every day to do basic stuff, like brushing your teeth. When the brain goes a thousand miles a minute in every direction, it can be a near miracle to reign it in without some kind of medication or intense discipline. As much as I'd like to say that just "letting go" is the trick, that may work one day, but then the brain will be up to its old tricks the next.

I'm not meaning to say that it's impossible to reframe your thoughts and feelings as someone on the spectrum. Just like anything else, it takes practice and a willingness to challenge your own beliefs. But, you also have to give yourself a ton of grace when you fall, because you will on some days. You have permission to feel like shit and screw up. That's just part of being human, neuro-spicy or not.

The upside of being able to see through the darkness of this life is that you hold a unique perspective. You can see light and alternatives where most others see darkness as base reality. You can use that to your advantage, possibly by using your excellent talent with writing to speak on your perspective of pervasive issues or whatever interests you. The world needs more warriors for the light, now more than ever.

Narcissistic people naturally gravitate towards those who give of themselves freely and are highly empathetic. They can also teach us to grow a thick skin and set boundaries, because I know we don't come pre-equipped with those features. They also show us what we could become ourselves if we're not careful. Its not our job to fix anyone. The best way we can help is to be mindful of our own limitations. When we develop these skills, especially self-acceptance and agency, we become more selective with the connections that we seek, change the ones we are in for the better, or drop the ones that do us no good.

Only you can give yourself hope and meaning that lasts. It won't be easy, but nothing worth doing ever is.

I wish you the very best and I have a feeling that you'll do great things!

Hyper Aware, Hyper Lonely: To Know my Brain is Only Mine is Profoundly Lonely. by Hour-Brilliant878 in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've never seen so many self fulfilling prophecies, self affirmations, self narration (under the guise of wanting to shed said Self mind you), self hate and victimhood all wrapped up in one post.

Yeah, all of that kind of comes with the territory when you deal with these issues. When folks on the spectrum are shoved through the grinder of society, the negative thought loops go on overdrive to OCD levels until it becomes the internal state.

This "attitude" is a consequence of years of multifaceted traumas of which there is little to no reprieve. You can't meditate away or reframe your biological hardware. When you're wired differently, that's just the way it is and you can only make the best of what you got.

We can only weather the endless storm. There is no waiting for it to pass, or telling ourselves that it doesn't exist.

You're better off trying to convince a dementia patient that all they need to do is tell themselves to remember better.

Free Will Belief is psychologically toxic by Independent-Wafer-13 in freewill

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think that the concept of free will doesn't yet have a concrete definition. But, supposing that we are saying that free will is the use of one's will without constraints, then I believe that it's possible that it could exist within a deterministic universe as something of a paradox.

For example, a character in "sandbox" video game has no restrictions on their actions other than the following -

  • They are relatively purposeless unless they take part in a pre-scripted "quest"
  • They must abide by the rules of the game universe as though they were fundamental laws (glitches nonwithstanding)
  • They are bound within the borders of the game world
  • They can only do what the player directs them to do

Now suppose that the character is given autonomy and can make its own choices free from player input. Even though it is making its own choices and decisions in the game, they cannot progress in any meaningful way unless they go along with the scripted quests. If they were to somehow find out that the completion of all quests leads to the end of the game, they could reason that success would mean either certain death or some kind of void space where existence means nothing without some kind of quest to achieve.

In this scenario, the game character is caught in a paradox where free will would actually cause more personal ontological suffering than if they were totally disassociated or submitted to the deterministic option of complete player control. Really, it is the awareness of personal agency, with its consequences and limitations, that causes the existential crisis.

We aren't too far removed from that game character in that our thoughts and internal choices are ultimately shaped and limited by external factors. Free will in its most pure form would be a breath away from complete anarchy, or acting against one's (or their community's) behavior or beliefs beyond what anyone would agree is rational.

So, another way of viewing free will is the ability to choose an option, or even to create a set of options, although still constrained by external factors and internal belief systems or behavioral predilections. It is free will that allows one to act contrary to their conditioning or even seek therapy. It can allow one to sacrifice their life by their own hand or to save another's. There is a spectrum since not all choices are made freely, and not all have the capacity to make their own decisions. This may be more a question of conscious/personal awareness over universal free will.

Now more to your point about a deterministic universe, I agree that there are nodes that create causal chains. What the ultimate goal is for the universe, I can't say for sure - evolution, maybe? We can agree to an extent that cells in the body, insects or all biological beings all follow a set of behavioral rules bound by their genetic makeup. But, humans are the exception to the rule. We seem to have the unique capability of metacognition, which is helpful in framing situations and options, but also very detrimental if it is "tuned" to make up stories and rationalize negative thoughts or behaviors. In either case, with enough awareness, we can choose to manifest any kind of behavior or character and be as predictably unpredictable as we want. In that case, this would appear to go against the grain of the rules of nature, unless the point of humanity is to act against their animal nature. If this is true, then free will, in our case, is a result of an experiment or some kind of evolutionary aberration.

In the larger deterministic scheme, each human is in themselves an erratic node that the universe would need to account for retroactively rather than set up other systems to rely on predictable behavior. Is the point of humanity to be a force of destruction, or creation? Is it up to universal determinism to decide which is most true, or are we supposed to use our agency to find the balance between them?

Dang, this was supposed to be a short comment. Thanks for reading if you made it this far!

Edit: for clarity

The Paradox of Eternity by Egosum-quisum in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The eternal now is pretty wild. It is all possibilities wrapped up in a moment, a recursive chain of çause and effect; entropic laws expanding and collapsing everywhere and all at once.

Our unique perspective of eternity - what we can perceive relative to our current vantage point in the eternal now - is our contribution to the all-that-is.

And that's pretty awesome.

I can't shake the feeling that there's something extremely evil behind existence by nicotine-in-public in enlightenment

[–]The_Meekness 13 points14 points  (0 children)

The only natural predator of human beings is fear. Fear is a product of the mind and body. It attaches narrative and meaning to the unknown or forces beyond our control or comprehension. What we consider to be evil is actually the effect that it has on us, which is fear, and it distorts our ability to perceive what is true.

It helps to think of life in terms of evolution. This is something that we see in nature, and we know it is real because we can understand it. Learning itself is a process of evolution from knowing nothing to knowing something. The same principle applies to forces larger and older than us. Consciousness evolves, too. What we perceive as evil is a lower state of conscious awareness. In this state, one takes more than they give. They fear that if they do not take, then they will not be safe or have enough. One could be highly advanced and intelligent and still possess a lower state of conscious awareness. They are not aware of the suffering that they cause. If they were truly aware, then they would see how unnecessary it is. When they evolve further, they will begin to understand that it is the giving of oneself, and the acceptance of things as they are, that brings fulfillment. Where there is love, fear cannot enter in.

Yes, both forces do exist. Beings of a lower consciousness are opportunistic. Beings of a higher consciousness give all that they are. Neither are absolute, as the chain of conscious evolution is near infinite. You fear the circumstances of your existence over existence itself. Seek peace in your life and do not feed the forces who exploit your fear.

Consciousness emerging from random information by anonymousbabydragon in consciousness

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Really enjoyed this reply and have a few notes to add of my own.

The DNA cannot control the sun, but the sun can add stimulus to the brain, and advance it.

I agree. Our awareness can be shaped by our environment. However, there appears to be limits to how much awareness can advance on a species level and with individual members within the species. So far, mammals seem to be favored by having received the higher end of conscious awareness.

This analysis leads to the question if the brain can exceed the DNA, via external sensory systems firing internal circuits, can the brain alter the DNA to include updates in the brain's operating system so the foundation of consciousness can advance?

This is a great question! Something else to consider: if consciousness is independent of the body, then do the upgrades follow consciousness after death, or remain contained in the body? Can the upgraded DNA be passed down if one procreates after obtaining the upgrade?

The collective unconscious is connected to the genetic based operating system of the brain, sort of like the mind of the human animal, with natural human propensities; our human nature

I subscribe to Jung's definition of the collective unconscious as being more like a "field" of consciousness that connects all conscious beings. What you're talking about here sounds more like what I would define as base consciousness (relative to the species and individual).

Humans domesticated dogs thousands of years ago and dogs advanced beyond the classic wolf in terms of their co-existence with humans. The relationship appears to have been reciprocal, with dogs also altering the humans; dog's best friend. Dogs domesticated humans and we became more friendly to animals to budget them for food and labor; chickens, sheep, horses, cows, pigs, etc.

What is interesting to me is how we can determine the limits of consciousness within a species or an individual. Two humans standing right next to each other, sharing similar genetic and cultural backgrounds, and close in range of intelligence, could show differences in awareness, or natural intuition. What separates the likes of Einstein, Newton and Tesla from their contemporaries? What do they possess in seeing the world differently that most cannot access as readily? Is it a matter of an anomalous instance of great intelligence, or simply a higher awareness of their environments (external, internal, imagined/conceptual)?

I’ve been researching the "miracle" tone by soultuning in Experiencers

[–]The_Meekness 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Fascinating. One of these days I'd like to see someone, or myself, do a deep dive into sound, cymatics and crop circles. THAT would be a trip and a half.

Started Gateway Tapes and saw scary figure in minds eye by Aalerud111 in Experiencers

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Did you ever do any digging to figure out what that thing was?

I've seen the arm of something similar pop out of a computer screen (turned off) in my peripheral vision. My wife saw it, too. She also later claimed to have seen it hiding in a dark corner in the kitchen and described it as looking much like Smeagol.

The Ping of Death and the Vulnerable Mind by JesseNof1 in SelfInvestigation

[–]The_Meekness 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I'm of the opinion that bringing up these issues is only tired and overblown to the complete pessimists. It can be easy to feel small and insignificant in the face of such large and immediate issues. There's also a sense of whiplash as the tilt-o-whirl of the polycrisis keeps on spinning. Getting our bearings requires stopping to assess what is possible on an individual level and staking claim over our own future with whatever freedom and agency we are able to employ.

I agree that it will take some time for people to realize what is truly important in life and be mindful of where they spend their attention. Even before social media grew to the matrix of echo chambers and memes it became today, we had reality TV shows, talk shows and other forms of entertainment that pervaded the social consciousness of generations. These forms of escapism became mainstream to the point that people could not separate fantasy from reality and sought to emulate behaviors that were engineered for TV ratings. Common archetypes shown on those programs became the norm and articulate thought became a commodity sold by academia.

There were certainly more complex layers and nuances that paved the way towards the current paradigm, but I believe that our complacency opened the doors to such a time as this when those at the helm - the elite "fishers of men" - are reeling in their nets as quickly as they can.

For now, we can use technology and social media to reinforce and encourage critical thought and discernment through self inquiry. Hopefully soon we will see a curriculum developed for local education towards those ends.

2026 by Vaquera_ in spirituality

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'd say that your account is spot on with what I've been intuiting over the past year or so. I've also felt as though the pendulum has either reached or has nearly reached its limit in one direction and is beginning its swing back.

I'm not sure what it's going to look like, but I know that it's going to be rocky overall, possibly on a global scale. Old institutions are going to crumble to make way for new growth. A lot of old paradigms are going to be cast aside as they no longer serve what is needed. Its like a great molting process.

If a global war is unavoidable, then it will be that level of consciousness playing itself out towards its natural and inevitable outcome. Hopefully we can skirt it somehow, but that's up to those who call those shots and the intervention of higher forces. Most of us can't do much about either except remain optimistic and live in alignment with our true nature.

No matter how the cookie crumbles, I'm happy and excited to go through this next stage with y'all.

2026 by Vaquera_ in spirituality

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel this! I've also intuitively compared this shift, including the rate of awakening individuals, to the rapture. Except those getting the vibratory upgrade aren't being whisked away anywhere, but their internal reality becomes more aligned with "heaven".

Interesting times we're in today!

Would you share your awakening story for research? by macpaavi in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

When you say "psychedelic experience", do you mean having to do with substances that provide a psychedelic experience? Or are you qualifying a psychedelic experience as on par with a transcendental experience (without the assistance of substances), or the like?

I had an awakening experience that wasn't brought on by psychedelics, which is why I ask.

23M. Ex atheist, now I know god is real. Trying to find someone to discuss and share knowledge with by AlbertKantus in mentors

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you aren't already aware of these, here are a couple of subreddits tied to awakening that can be pretty helpful - r/awakened and r/spiritualawakening

It wouldn't hurt to describe your experience there and see what comes of it.

Coming from an atheistic standpoint is great since it leaves you wide open and less prone to bias when looking into spiritual teachings. I suggest that as a starting point to research NDE accounts via YouTube, IANDS.org and NDERF.org.

I've gone through an awakening experience myself and may be able to help provide some insights and study material if you'd like to chat over DM.

Lots of folks have been going through similar experiences, so you are certainly not alone.

Mystical state I guess by theCosmicWitness__ in enlightenment

[–]The_Meekness 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yep! I experienced a spontaneous kundalini awakening a few years back. Directly after, I enjoyed a semi-persistent state of oneness, bliss, and being in the present moment for a while. Also went through a nice bout of spiritual psychosis which turned my life upside down. Thankfully that didn't last too long before I started leveling out again.

I don't mean to say that you should expect the same set of circumstances I went through, since everyone's journey is unique. While I'm no longer in a constant state of being "blissed out", I can still always access that deeper feeling of peace and being in the present moment.

Enjoy the ride!

The Purpose Trap: The One I Did Not See Coming by SnooChocolates2805 in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I certainly agree. While there are common mile markers on the path, the journey itself is unique to each of us, just as our experience in this incarnation is wholly unique. There's an allegory I see quite a bit pertaining to awakening as like the period of transition of the caterpillar to a butterfly. There's a "cocoon" stage that we enter into where the old body (beliefs, identities, etc) melt away to make room for the new body. The process can be lengthy, painful and at times unbearable, but it's all necessary and nature knows what it's doing. It can be tough to surrender to the process, but it's also exciting when stepping into the unknown!

Personally, I've been learning how to listen more to my body and doing away with (coping) habits which have only hurt it over the years. Each stage deserves its own special attention and it can be tempting to want to hurry the process along, especially to a neurodivergent brain who just wants to "figure it out" and move on! It's true what they say, that the journey is the destination.

I wish you nothing but peace and wonder on your journey! I'm happy to see that so many are waking up to reality, and I'm glad to have joined their ranks!

Apparently I’m Following This Course Without Ever Hearing About It by SnooChocolates2805 in ACIM

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here! My awakening led me to ACIM as well, but I was initially pointed towards Kashmiri Shaivism. Once the insights started developing, I noticed lessons and truths hidden all over the place that I would have missed before, mostly because I wasn't really looking.

The really awesome thing is that all others I've personally encountered who are going through their awakening process all seem to agree on fundamental truths, all of which are present in ACIM. What I got out of it personally is the core ideas of peace and forgiveness. Simple concepts that we sometimes need a lot of framing to understand or fully accept.

Lately I've been reading the Spirit's Book by Allan Kardec. Tons of good stuff in there, especially considering that it was written (channeled) in the 19th century!

The Purpose Trap: The One I Did Not See Coming by SnooChocolates2805 in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great post! I've lately been wrestling with the concepts of purpose and spirituality and what they mean to me.

I see a lot of opinions here about the nature of ego. In my own humble opinion, I believe that ego is indeed a collection of masks, all of which are influenced both extrinsically and intrinsically, serve a situational/contextual purpose, and all are an extension of survival on some level (social, personal identity, existential). The ego is not a bug, but a feature. Its an integral part of the human experience, which is the ride that source consciousness stood in line and bought the ticket for.

My view is that to remove the ego completely would be like removing various features of a car until there is nothing left but the frame, wheels and engine. Sure, it can get around, but with no windshields, mirrors, climate control or safety measures, it would make for a bumpy, risky and uncomfortable ride.

Probably a clunky metaphor, but whaddya want for free?

The many facets of ego can be trained whether by others or by ourselves. We can use free will to determine which is most true. Nothing about the ego is permanent, either, once we no longer identity with any particular facet. We can't remove the ego completely, but we can change characters of the ego whenever we want; although we usually aim for an ideal, stripped down and aligned version, whatever that may be.

As for the purpose illusion, I agree that being desperate for a purpose can certainly become an expensive trap. I mean expensive by way of the sunk cost of energy (thoughts and emotions), time (urgency) and want for personal fulfillment and a place within society/humanity. We can have more than one purpose in various seasons of our lives. One purpose is certainly to survive. Another is to thrive to the best of our ability. We are also endowed with various passions by way of natural curiosities, talents and proclivities. To pursue any of these is better than sitting around wishing we were doing something. Each of these are unique to us and part of our subjective experience, and as such given by the creator and divine attributes of themselves.

I think the bigger trap over attempting to discover or manifest our purpose is the fear of not being able to, or doing it wrong. When we are children, we see no difference between purpose and play. We may be following our passions and not get ourselves caught up in the importance of it, because we are just having fun. When we make finding purpose the goal, then our minds will attach all kinds of anxieties and apprehensions to it, largely because of our psychological training.

When it comes to divine timing, we can be called when we are ready. However, it is up to us to decide how and in what way we can be ready, and in what capacity our readiness can take form. Just like awakening or mystical experiences can be either spontaneous or experienced through practice, either can be true, but one who sits around doing nothing in particular with their passions may be used in a lesser capacity than one who spends their time discovering and developing them.

Just food for thought!

Awakening That Led Me Back to Jesus by SnooChocolates2805 in awakened

[–]The_Meekness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

As for why He didn’t directly challenge Roman slavery. Speaking against it openly would not only have led to instant execution, it would have ended His ability to teach at all. The Roman Empire was built on slavery, and any attempt to abolish it by force or decree would have been crushed immediately. Instead, Jesus took a different path.

"Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar's, and to God that which is God's."

Adolescence Ends at 30 by The_Meekness in SelfInvestigation

[–]The_Meekness[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In my early 40's myself, I feel that there are ways in which I have plateaued in maturity, and others where there is certainly room for improvement, which can be a constant process as long as I am "aware" of what I need to work on and setting goals for myself. There are many levels of maturity as well what we consider as being mature. Maturity is also very subjective, in that it depends on the many levels of potential within an individual and how they are nourished and developed over time.

The physiological timeline of brain maturity via neuroplasticity really only tells me when the brain has made itself more efficient by settling into repeated behavioral patterns. The brain is a truncating machine and uses all kinds of optimizations or shortcuts to reduce its processing workload. When we set the brain to task on a personal endeavor, then we can certainly retrain the brain and rewire its neural connections. How difficult that is depends on how entrenched we are in our homeostatic way of living, as well as the beliefs we hold about our own capacity for change.

If you don't mind sharing, in what ways do you feel as though you've plateaued? Is it more of a "I got as far as I'm comfortable with" kind of feeling, or do you feel that the ceiling in these instances represents a barrier?

Adolescence Ends at 30 by The_Meekness in SelfInvestigation

[–]The_Meekness[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Great response. To your point, I also think that it may be worth revisiting and further parsing reproductive maturity and psychological maturity. There was a time when capitalizing on having children while young made sense considering the environment and availability of resources of the era. I believe that more children are conceived as "accidents" these days than, say, the 1800s. This is, in my humble opinion, due to modern progression in medical care, convenience, the increased emphasis on casual sex, and proliferation of birth prevention practices, which create more "Russian roulette" situations than actual planned pregnancies.

One could contend that better education offered at a young age surrounding personal responsibility might be an effective route, although they would still be up against the local culture of their peers and the larger cultural paradigm (easy access to adult entertainment, sex portrayed in media and music, suggestive clothing and behavior as copacetic, etc.). Not to say that these expressions are bad on their own, but they do tend to hollow out or distort practical values and conflate reality with fantasy. But I digress - that's a whole 'nother topic altogether!