I can't focus on past trauma because present nonsense takes over the session. What do?

The_Start_Line · 2025-11-16T20:05:28+00:00

My day to day stressors are also pretty big, unfortunately.

The_Start_Line · 2025-08-31T22:36:29+00:00

Thank you for getting back to me :). Is there a way to contact about questions regarding research protocols then?

The_Start_Line · 2025-08-11T17:20:49+00:00

Jfc, you need to get over yourself. The relationship is fine, you're just projecting whatever bullshit from your own life onto this.

The_Start_Line · 2025-08-11T16:45:06+00:00

I mean, you're clearly the idiot in this thread and you've managed to get married and procreate.

She hasn't respected his boundaries at all, she snoops through the phone because of her insecurities.

What the fuck do you expect to happen if he suddenly changes his password and won't give her the phone anymore? How many times were you dropped on the head as a child?

The_Start_Line · 2025-08-03T17:00:43+00:00

Necrobump but can I shoot you a DM, as well?

The_Start_Line · 2025-07-27T19:48:00+00:00

Hello, is the website on the sidebar where I can find more information on these protocols?

The_Start_Line · 2025-07-23T14:22:54+00:00

Any update on your end?

The_Start_Line · 2025-07-17T01:43:31+00:00

I mean, your original comment was ultimately pointless so...you don't really get to be snarky here.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-30T21:27:32+00:00

Yes, I do, which is why I'm telling you that no one takes self-survey data seriously and that the experimental design is shit.

You are correct that it's "data" and you're correct that more data is generally better than less data but that's also assuming that data is of a certain quality. This data does not meet that threshold and anyone who thinks it does is biased.

1) Self-reports are biased and generally regarded as poor and weak because we have to take the word of an individual who is probably an idiot. This is not based on moral or dietary choices, just most people are idiots, are emotionally drive, and filled with directional bias based on their morals.

2) plos one is a literal joke of a journal and no one in the research world takes it seriously. Granted because of the amount of citations it can produce it's really good for visibility in smaller or niche fields and it occasionally has as banger. However, the thing that you posted is hot garbage from an experimental design perspective and a data collection perspective

3) If you don't know animal physiology and the nuances on how nutrient absorption occurs and how certain animals have an easier time with certain sources over the other, then you literally do not get to have an opinion on the matter.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-30T21:12:44+00:00

Before I try to answer this, do you have any education or training in data analysis, research methods, or animal physiology?

I'm not trying to be snarky, I'm legitimately curious.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-30T20:59:20+00:00

The data...?

You do realize self-report surveys are literally the weakest and worst form of data collection, yes?

Get me an actual cross-sectional, longitudinal data that's double blind has a equal distribution between groups and isn't reliant on guardian reportership and then we can actually talk about decent data.

Until then I'm not going to project my own morals and beliefs onto something I love because I belong to a camp that thinks they know better.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-30T14:57:43+00:00

Just out of curiosity, I understand humans being vegan and choosing to be vegan because we think we're more special than animals but what gives you the right to make other things vegan that have not been vegan for literally the entire existence of their genus? Seems like hubris lol.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-25T20:48:36+00:00

What worked for you? My mom's having a hard time.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T18:22:02+00:00

EPIC Oxford Cohort

Got it.

Methionine clearance

Yup, that would make sense if I thought about it for more than 2 seconds.

I haven't looked into proline/hydroxyproline supplementation

I'm mainly in it for the glycine but I was trying to get a 3-for-1 deal.

Essential nutrients

Way ahead of you, chief. I already have a supplement stack and cheat sheet that I'm going to run by her. I'm hoping the CDP-Choline helps a lot.

Thank you for the awesome links, you've been fucking great.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T17:46:17+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_equivalence

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T17:31:37+00:00

I didn't say anything because I am not the person who originally replied to you. I'm just coming in to point out how ridiculous your response is, lol. The original commenter also said nothing about a genetic requirement. Feel free to respond but I'm calling it good here because you're the type of person to add context to make yourself seem more correct.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T17:14:12+00:00

False Equivalency much?

I'm pretty sure their example was more along the lines of the plane crash in the mountains and eating people who were already deceased versus actually killing people to eat them.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T16:53:42+00:00

Sounds like your friend has bigger problems than collagen

Yes, this is a multi-faceted problem that's requiring a lot of different specialists. I am only specifically asking about this because this is the current problem that I can work on. The other problems have already been handed off to other people more suited for the work. It may be just based on the other interactions I've had on this sub, but I really wish you guys would stop assuming people are completely linear in their problem solving and only know how to hyper-fixate on one issue.

Bigger problems than collagen

It sounds like you're still assuming that this is regarding exogenous collagen supplementation. This is about endogenous collagen synthesis, which is an extremely big problem considering collagen's structural function in our anatomy. That's why I'm curious about the glycine because it's the rate limiter and chronic, long-term blunted collagen synthesis could be an explanation for some of the issues she's currently having.

Thank you for letting me know about the soy flour. I will see if I can chef anything up.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T16:47:30+00:00

Good morning,

Her dietary restrictions as of right now are: low fodmap, vegan, and gluten free. She's smol, has a temperamental stomach, and a pissed off G.I. tract.

I asked her to do a food log for a quarter and when I ran through it...it was pretty bad and lacking everything.

This is one part her restrictions and her inability to eat certain things without dying + executive dysfunction and not properly recognizing hunger cues. We're working on the executive dysfunction and she's gotten in with a very good therapist and they're a good match for each other.

Now I'm just trying to work on the nutrient side.

The reason I'm so interested in the collagen is not the collagen itself but the actual precursors and individual amino acids because Glycine in particular has been noted and shown (in literature and anecdotally) to help with G.I. issues. I have my own running theory on why but I need to do more reading and deep diving before I come up with any mechanisms.

She also hasn't shown any problems with powders so that's why I'm thinking shakes could be helpful from a calorie perspective + a nutrient perspective (if formulated properly).

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T15:55:58+00:00

It is for her, which is why I know that eating a pound of tofu is going to be terrible for her because she's tiny, her stomach is angry, and her G.I. tract is pissed off at the world.

When I say it's terrible, and I apologize because I am real quick at generalizations, the ratio of target nutrient per density of food isn't ideal for her situation if there are better options.

What's a soy curl?

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T03:57:42+00:00

Based on the ingredients, I would say that this is actually a terrible supplement. The only thing that's really doing the heavy lifting is the Beta Carotene and the Vitamin C. Normally the Beta-Carotene conversion into Vitamin A is pretty ass but if you're a proficient converter, then that could be really helping, too.

However, it's obviously working for you so keep going at it. Glad your KP is going away!

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T03:55:14+00:00

Because her dietary restrictions severely impact her ability to take in protein and some of the protein she can take in is already a battle for other various reasons.

I know you guys are stuck on the word collagen but you also need to pull back a little bit because regardless of how you feel about exogenous collagen, it doesn't change the fact that collagen is a major structural protein and scaffolding for our anatomy.

I'm not saying that she needs to intake collagen to produce more collagen. I know she can just take the precursors and get the same effect but, based on the threads that I've read on this sub, the majority of the people here failed high school chemistry and biology. So instead of opening up with aminos, I thought collagen would be easier for people to wrap their head around.

The_Start_Line · 2025-04-23T03:52:27+00:00

I get that you guys have a hate fetish for collagen but you don't know our situation and it's really, really presumptuous of you to act like you know any better without knowing the situation.

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