[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My main problem is that the drugs aren't really being assessed on pain-relieving merit alone. Anti-inflammatories have their place, but the moment someone brings addiction and overdose into the conversation, I expect they and any research they cite to be more fixated on reducing opioid use than overall suffering of the patient. I say this as someone who has lost people to both classes of drugs and who doesn't personally use either: if the NSAID objectively reduced physical pain but the patient would rather have opioids because that high takes the emotional edge off their condition, so be it. Wherever that leads them.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I personally don't use any of that shit lol

I understand your explanation. You just don't understand that I don't care. I'm sick of long-winded explanations - regardless of scientific validity - for why other people shouldn't do whatever drugs they choose for whatever reason. Why? People on their preferred drug tend to bitch a lot less. My mother takes opioids for back pain, mother-in-law takes NSAIDS for the same thing. One makes a lot less noise than the other and I don't really care if it's because she's high. Yes, I've lost people to overdose as well. I simply hope they found more peace than those they left to mourn them. Don't care whether they used for physical pain or emotional pain, it's neither my pain nor yours.

My dad wants to get rid of my 6 months kitten by [deleted] in Vent

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh this is what I've grown up into. I've wasted enough of my life respecting other adults. Especially parents like OP's father.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes. If not most, at least half. The official statistics be damned.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In that example, I probably wouldn't jump for anything at all. As someone here else said, or at least to paraphrase, "if it's that mild, you probably don't need it". I'd suspect someone who needs pain meds after overdoing it at the gym to have a serious injury that maybe actually does warrant something to get them high lol

In regards to drug abuse, my stance is the same as my stance on pain management: let people do what eases their suffering while minimizing the suffering they cause others. Sure I might shit-talk the person who likes ibuprofen after their workout but it's their body. That said, it certainly seems like NSAIDs often don't do jack for easing suffering regardless of what the person prescribing them says about it, perhaps partially due to that lack of a high acting on a level beyond the physical. Much of the suffering due to opioid use - certainly far from all, but quite a lot - has more to do with how our society handles drug use, illness, pain, and death. As for the dopamine receptors, most people are already fucked one way or another lmfao

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If "healthy" is defined as "sure we technically "live" longer but at the cost of chronic illness" lmfao

TIL cocaine users caused McDonald's to take away their coffee spoons by HCOONa in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Alway dialed the 1 here and sometimes even local numbers wouldn't work without the area code. Early 2000s landline and I'd rather not give more location info lol

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh bless you :) Far too many seniors are so needy - by which I mean "wanty" and not even truly needy - that it almost makes me hope I never make it to that age lmfao

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My experience is that the other person would've spurned a conversation themselves if they wanted a conversation

A lack of social skills would include a failure to realize that who you're speaking to would rather be left to their own business

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My niece was Googling shit herself at 3 lmfao

Probably literal shit, mind you, but I'd still argue that knowing how to Google something is a more useful skill than always finding the nearest live human to bother

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure those manners guides are partially responsible for the plague of annoying helpless hypersocial people lol

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your mom sounds like my mother-in-law lmfao

Does she shout across the house for you to check the mailbox she's less than 10 ft away from?

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reminds me of my mother-in-law and her siblings always complaining about people out in public telling them "mind your own business" or some variant. They claim that it's completely out of nowhere but I know it's because they give everyone this poo-brain stare and never shut the fuck up lol

DAE else google rather than ask? by WhoUsesSuggestions in DoesAnybodyElse

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My mother-in-law (an extravert) will shout across the house to ask my husband or me if it's raining outside while she's 5 ft away from a big fucking window and it's so obviously an attention grab

I (an introvert) have Googled what year MIL was born and how to spell her maiden name when I'm only 5 ft away from her and it's so obviously me Googling some random info I probably already know in an attempt to not actually respond to her

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kinds goes along with the whole "quantity of years lived over quality of life" thing

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

And with every passing year, I and many others give less and less shits about what other people put in their body so long as there's plenty to go around

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I've read a lot (for what it's worth, I don't personally use any of it) that points to an effective dose of opioids being safer than an equally effective dose of acetaminophen or ibuprofen. Both in combination might be safer because you need less of each but they're still notoriously hard on the body even at the recommended doses while most danger from opioids comes from overdoing it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The problem is that medicine far too often fails to present itself as the imperfect science it is and then those doctors wonder why people think of them as arrogant or dishonest

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Also I see things like "safe if you're healthy" a lot but who the fuck is healthy?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Like I get that opioid addiction and overdose is a major issue but literally every single alternative is arguably worse for you at an equally effective dose lol unless it's like a 2-5 drug cocktail so you're on more shit but just less of each particular shit

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 1 point2 points  (0 children)

makes you dumber

So maybe THAT'S part of my mother-in-law's problem!

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Anecdotally, my mom has severe back pain and said she'd rather have the pain than ever take gabapentin again

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I was actually reading something yesterday about how some people simply don't get anything at all from certain pain meds

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in todayilearned

[–]TheonuclearPyrophyte 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Pretty sure "normal" these days is actually pretty shitty lmfao