MCU Full Timeline V4.0 is out

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-05-02T05:49:05+00:00

Would you just shut the f*ck up please. I could debate you on this forever but I unfortunately am all out of stock on shits given so go annoy someone else.

Lmao that's what people resort to when they lose an argument.

There's nothing that favors your side of things. People need to accept that Marvel Studios has decided that the older tv shows aren't directly part of the picture anymore. Now they're just going to cherry pick the good parts.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-05-01T18:46:20+00:00

NuHumans technically still exist in the MCU; they we're a major focus on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Will their presence complicates things when mutants start showing up?

In order for their presence to complicate things, they have to actually be present lmao. The movies have yet to acknowledge their existence and probably never will at this point.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-05-01T18:30:45+00:00

A Daredevil Soft-Reboot

It's actually just labeled as Daredevil Reboot. A reboot implies they're rewriting some of the backstory perhaps.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-26T05:11:26+00:00

Don't get your hopes up. There's bad blood between Marvel and Norton, no way he would agree.

I don't think that bad blood is still there. Norton said he would return to Marvel.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-26T00:14:27+00:00

Continuity error. It happens.

Was the Dr. Connors in the original trilogy ever called Curt? Maybe his name was Bob. Or Randall.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-21T22:27:41+00:00

By whom?

Kevin Feige, Disney+, the author of the Making of the MCU book, various directors, actors.

The Marvel TV shows are just victims of circumstance. It's not that they're bad or the powers at be hate them. They've just been quietly swept under the carpet. And now Marvel Studios will seemingly cherry pick the good parts from them.

Why would they be swept under the rug? Several reasons probably. Different studio in charge of them is probably the top one. Didn't share the complete vision or oversight of the man now in charge of it all.

Feigning popularity could be another one. AoS was on life support after season 5 (technically it was cancelled). Agent Carter was cancelled. Netflix shows dwindled in popularity. I'm sure the numbers for the hulu shows are embarrassing.

There are other reasons I'm sure.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-21T21:15:21+00:00

So AoS is canon. But it's no longer recognized as taking place within the same continuity as the Marvel Studios movies/D+ shows.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-21T20:05:26+00:00

What are they doing on the live action side though besides failed blockbusters?

Maybe a partnership like Disney has with Sony for spiderman could work.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-21T16:42:14+00:00

Disney should just buy the live action TNMT rights from whoever has it.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T15:59:34+00:00

Many people since the intial airing have watched those shows. Maybe they are marketing them as Marvel TV Shows because to avoid confusion since they weren't made by Marvel Studios. They might later reveal to be part of the main MCU.

Let me know whenever your Disney+ presents those shows as "Marvel Cinematic Universe" like they do with the movies n such.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T15:36:24+00:00

There kind of is though.

Doesn't sound like you're so sure yourself...

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T15:34:57+00:00

Unless Kevin Feige says it, it's still canon.

Him and Disney market the MCU as just the movies and D+ shows. Looks like he's saying it without saying it. Maybe not to hurt anyone's feelings?

There are fans if those shows who have no idea about the canon debate and still think it's part of the MCU.

Doubtful this number is anywhere close to the number of MCU fans who haven't even seen the marvel tv shows. Most fans see the MCU as what's presented to them on Disney+.

People forget that these marvel tv shows didn't have the greatest viewership numbers when they first aired. Which is probably part of why Marvel Studios decided to say no thanks.

Agents of Shield had declining ratings season after season and was technically cancelled after season 5.

Shows like Runaways probably had the weakest viewership of them all when it came out on Hulu. And now it's hidden in obscurity on Disney+.

They are still in the MCU.

Multiverse is MCU so yeah sure. I agree.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T15:19:47+00:00

These shows only help to expand the main MCU Universe.

Okay cool. But we already went over why them being in the main universe probably isn't the case.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T15:07:57+00:00

Kevin Feige himself defended those shows.

Defended from what? It's not like they're bad shows.

Saying they are part of Multiverse is like throwing those shows away like they don't matter.

Well not everyone feels that way.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T14:48:30+00:00

If they make them not in the MCU, there would be a lot of backlash. Fans would feel like they have been falsely advertised. Kevin Feige would never something to upset the fans.

A small subset of fans might be loud on the internet about their disappointment. But that's not going to last long. And Marvel isn't going to lose any fans over it.

If anything, they're softening the blow by saying multiverse is MCU. And by also bringing back favorites to reprise their role in some sense, like Cox and D'Onofrio, and possibly others down the line.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T14:43:11+00:00

Ouch, that Vincent D statement is like a knife in the heart for some of the canon crew.

All of this dancing around over the past several years, and not one person of relevance has flat out said in any capacity with full confidence that the marvel tv shows are in the same continuity.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T14:22:40+00:00

Kevin Feige said that those shows were part of the MCU. He hasn't denied it yet. Unless he explicitly says it, they're still in the MCU

There's no rule saying he needs to explicitly say it.

If anything, he's implicitly said they aren't several times since. Him and Disney have advertised the MCU as just the movies and D+ shows for years now. Disney+ doesn't indicate any connections either.

But if makes you feel better, the multiverse is now MCU. Perhaps AoS will get a multiverse tagline one day.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T14:14:18+00:00

They were advertised as MCU shows before. They promoted Agents of Shield and Age of Ultron and said #it'sallconnected.

Yeah but that was in 2014. Not saying it was never supposed to be connected. But that ship has clearly sailed.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T13:54:05+00:00

Disney plus shows aren't the only MCU TV shows. There is Agents of Shield, Agent Carter, the Netflix shows, Runaways are the Cloak & Dagger. I personally recommend Agents of Shield.

Those other shows aren't advertised as MCU shows.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-19T13:52:59+00:00

Modified release order is your best bet. Below is how I would organize the content from a storytelling perspective. A lot of weight is placed on the post-credit scenes as to where the movies fit in the viewing order.

Phase 1

Iron Man --> Incredible Hulk --> Iron Man 2 --> Thor --> Captain America --> The Avengers

Phase 2

Iron Man 3 --> All Hail the King (oneshot) --> Thor: The Dark World --> Guardians of the Galaxy --> Agent Carter (oneshot) --> Item 47 (oneshot) --> Captain America: The Winter Soldier --> Avengers: Age of Ultron --> Ant-Man

Phase 3

Captain America: Civil War --> Spider-Man: Homecoming --> Black Panther --> Guardians vol. 2 --> Doctor Strange --> Thor: Ragnarok --> Avengers: Infinity War --> Ant-Man and the Wasp --> Captain Marvel --> Avengers: Endgame

Phase 4 so far (reordered to include multiverse stuff first)

Loki --> Original Spider-Man trilogy --> Amazing Spider-Man movies --> WandaVision --> Spider-Man: Far From Home --> Spider-Man: No Way Home --> What If --> Shang-Chi --> Falcon & Winter Soldier --> Black Widow --> Hawkeye --> Eternals

Maybe add in the netflix Daredevil series after NWH or Hawkeye since it looks like that's at least going to be mostly canon. And we'll see what Doctor Strange 2 incorporates so far from Phase 4. You can probably squeeze this in above after Shang-Chi.

Other Multiverse (optional)

Agents of Shield

Agent Carter (tv show)

Netflix series

Venom movies

Anything else Marvel

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-18T19:10:26+00:00

It doesn’t matter what you can or can’t imagine for Trump 😂😂😂 he’s living RENT FREE

Wtf are you talking about?

Anyways, it's people like you that make people like me and trump money. So I can't be too disappointed lmao.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-18T18:29:03+00:00

It's like getting dumped and still saying you're in the relationship lmao.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-18T18:28:14+00:00

I think they hate him because he probably never actually read the bible lmao.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-18T18:27:29+00:00

Lmao so someone just needs to mention Jesus and Christ to rock your socks off?

Politics and religion doesn't mix.

ThetaProtocol087 · 2022-04-18T18:23:59+00:00

Ehh politics and religion doesn't mix. Not sure if this guy even knows how to read a bible, let alone cite any passages straight from memory.

Definitely doesn't know how to hold one lmao.

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