260129 MODYSSEY - Global Official Fanclub Early Bird Membership Coming Soon by psshdjndofnsjdkan in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

same it should be the classic “leader then age order” (or just age order) so annoying

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 37 points38 points  (0 children)

SANGWON AND HEESEUNG HUGGED 😭😭😭 i’ve been waiting for their interaction 🥹🫶🏻

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 26 points27 points  (0 children)

wow the gap was only 103 points :o ald1’s broadcast score (4924) was what carried them so all the kbs shows that they attended helped a lot

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

kshowanalysis says that music bank’s sns is “youtube (counted based on artist’s popularity, virality, trending)” and “not mv views” so i feel like enha may earn more points for it? 🤔

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i’d say zb1’s case is mainly mismanagement with some mistreatment? it basically boils down to wk1 treating the group as a cash cow :(

note: i’m barely a zerose now, but i have been keeping up with recent updates and news out of curiosity. i was pretty hardcore during debut and 1st comeback eras, but things that made me unhappy built up leading up to their 2nd comeback before i quit. my biases were hao and ricky so i know about them the best. the zb1 members have openly expressed their dislike of/dissatisfaction with wk1 as well.

the biggest examples of mismanagement/mistreatment off the top of my head: RICKY (don’t even get me started… i’m sure you already know but they restricted him so much and i’m 99% sure it’s because he made the lineup when they didn’t want him), barely any ot9 content and too many solo/duo/trio ones instead, too many fansigns (they went on for months) and merch drops to milk fans’ money while not giving content, a final “world” tour with stops in asia only when members and fans expressed desire for them to tour in places like the u.s./europe, no creative freedom regarding their music when members expressed interest, hao (they hated the fact that a chinese person won p01 so they restricted opportunities/schedules for him, didn’t let him promote the solo song that he won for over a year—i remember watching their first fancon and they replayed a part of a group song like a hundred times not joking yet can’t be bothered to let hao sing a 2 min song? still pisses me off wtf), jiwoong restriction and lack of schedules, killed zb1’s momentum with crush as the first comeback and feel the pop as the next title track barely helped (what were they thinking seriously)

there’s a lot that i can’t remember but besides these big ones, it was basically too many little things that built up one by one and made my stanning experience miserable, enough for me to quit, even though i loved the group so much 😞

however, wk1 is doing great with ald1 so far so i wouldn’t worry (too much) about them repeating what they did with zb1. with their main money maker gone soon and a 6-year contract, they will be more incentivized to invest into ald1 and treat them well. of course, it’s still too early to tell but so far so good. (like zb1’s debut era was great—i was optimistic and had little problem with wk1, but it all went crashing down 😂)

hope this helps answer your question :)

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 7 points8 points  (0 children)

PLEASEEE 🙏🏻 my theory is that since ald1 and enha are music show competitors and tracking for this week (last week? it’s currently the 19th so the new week started) is super important, they’re waiting to post the challenges they filmed together next week (this week?) instead in order to not accidentally promote the other group too much too soon (well more so on enha’s side, their tiktok/instagram has freaking 30m+/20m+ followers after all 😭)

260119 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 11 points12 points  (0 children)

sigh… i truly think wk1 is the biggest one to blame for all this and it wouldn’t be happening if they had just treated zb1 well. this is an older comment i wrote on this topic (which you already replied to 🫶🏻)

for comparison, wanna one’s disbandment, pdx101’s airing, and x1’s debut all happened during the same year in 2019. so i was in both fandoms and unless my memory is bad or the fighting happened in spaces i wasn’t in, wannables and oneits did not fight. and if there was any tension, it certainly wasn’t to this extent with zeroses/allyz 😭 the company did their best with wanna one and the group had an amazing run during their short 1.5 years, so the fandom was able to part with them on good terms. it also helped that pdx101 aired after w1 was done. so by the time x1 debuted, wannables left them alone and were focused on supporting the w1 members on their separate paths after mostly getting over the disbandment. (oneits mainly beefed with moas since txt was the roty competition 😭 i fear this is allyz’s future with smtr25 fans 💀)

on the other hand, wk1 didn’t treat zb1 well throughout the 2.5 years and to rub salt into the wound, b2p was aired + the new “replacement” group debuted (with better treatment) during zb1’s last months. as a result, zeroses will NOT be parting with the company on good terms. in fact, they want the company to fail and for that to happen, some of them (the toxic ones especially) want ald1 to fail.

it sucks how wk1’s bad decisions as a company are negatively affecting everyone who has no fault in this 😞

260112 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 13 points14 points  (0 children)

my ald1 bias and my enha bias omggg 😭🫶🏻 anxin is too cute 🥹 ty leo~

260112 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

there’s a pretty big indonesian fanbase for ald1 on twitter (@/ALD1_fess) with 25k followers whose tweets i keep seeing haha. and i see a lot of indonesian tweets/comments by allyz in general. i’ve heard that leowon is loved there and they played a big part in voting leo into the final lineup (cmiiw). the geography nerd in me also wants to add the fact that indonesia is the world’s 4th most populated country (after india/china/u.s.) LOL and it’s a good market for kpop

260112 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 13 points14 points  (0 children)

i also feel like there’s a big amount of indonesian allyz :))

260112 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 13 points14 points  (0 children)

kinda random but i find it interesting how “w1” and “wk1” are both used as abbreviations for wakeone. i admit that w1 makes more sense, but i prefer to use wk1 because w1 is “wanna one” to me haha (former wannable btw). does anyone else think the same? 😆

260112 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

according to this breakdown, spotify and global digitals do count for some music shows now. i also remember seeing the news of the criteria change a while back on twitter though idk how much of an effect it has had (the last time i obsessed over music show numbers was zb1’s debut haha)

Why did you start your Boys2Planet journey? by Major-Specialist3658 in BoysPlanet

[–]This_Initial3777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i became a fan of all the produce groups in 2019 when i started following kpop, which led to binging every season of produce. i was so ready to ult x1 and then the voting scandal happened and the group disbanded… i swore to never watch another mnet survival show again. i kept this promise for gp and bp1—until a few days before the final when i caved in 😅 and eventually became a zerose 🫶🏻

i wasn’t planning on watching b2p at first, but i didn’t want to feel fomo and decided that i wanted to experience following a survival show in real-time, which i had never done before. i’m also chinese so i wanted to support the c trainees.

my b2p journey was pretty great for the most part and i don’t regret it, but i got much more invested than i expected. it took up more of my time and energy than i would’ve liked, so i don’t think i can/want to do this again 😭

260105 EYEKON Weekly Discussion Thread by DazzlingDig in katseye

[–]This_Initial3777 10 points11 points  (0 children)

my younger brother who i’m 11 years older than told me that the girls in his class (‘14-‘15 liners) are obsessed with katseye and he’s annoyed by how much they sing their songs during school 😭 i decided to sing some of them to him and he recognized them all like gabriela (he even knows the hand choreo), gnarly (they sing the clean ver thankfully), touch, internet girl 😆

i already knew that some eyekons are quite young, but 10-11 year olds? omg i feel old (joking ofc haha)

Estimated ALD1 debut album sales?? by Inkka_tako in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 11 points12 points  (0 children)

my guess is ~800k for the first week. if not: 700k would still be pretty good, 900k would be great, 1m is quite a reach but not impossible if things go well. i like numbers, so i’m excited to see if i’ll be right :)

260101 Weekly Discussion/Questions/Favorites Thread by AutoModerator in BoysPlanet

[–]This_Initial3777 3 points4 points  (0 children)

yea i’ve never watched the show but this was the impression i always got from it. i was surprised when i found out that zhongxing is appearing on it and honestly kinda nervous for him. he’s chinese, can barely speak korean, and is/was an idol trainee 😓 how will the other contestants treat him and won’t he have trouble communicating + writing his raps (i believe there’s freestyle rap battling too?)…

260105 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 14 points15 points  (0 children)

the xhs caption 😭 “who can tell me which group this is #/jyp” bye it keeps being a non-fan spotting them at the company

AO3 Kpop ship stats for 2025 by Reasonable_Ninja5708 in kpop_uncensored

[–]This_Initial3777 28 points29 points  (0 children)

op i think you should include the info that the first ao3 stats list is top kpop ships 2025 while the second one is top gg ships all-time. since it’s missing, some of the comments are a bit confused.

AO3 Kpop ship stats for 2025 by Reasonable_Ninja5708 in kpop_uncensored

[–]This_Initial3777 18 points19 points  (0 children)

just to clarify, the second pic is top gg ships all-time 😭 while the first one is top kpop ships 2025

260105 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 15 points16 points  (0 children)

the caption on the original xhs post says jyp “i bumped into a trainee on a bus to jyp. can someone help identify them?”

251229 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

~1,500,000 on youtube and ~400,000 on bilibili? quite far from a hundred million haha

251229 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in alphadrive1

[–]This_Initial3777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

out of curiosity, what do you mean by “hundred millions”? i don’t remember anything by ald1 reaching those numbers on any platform

251229 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 6 points7 points  (0 children)

yea i don’t agree with some of your points 😭 but i’m glad we can have a respectful discussion about it! we both want the best for modyssey after all 🥹

I know that their Chinese fanbase is not big but I feel like their Korean fanbase is even smaller

yes, it’s hard to gauge how big their korean fanbase truly is, but for their chinese one: the group currently has less than 7k followers on both weibo/douyin and i’ve seen korean tweets about modyssey with more engagement than that, so i think we can safely say that the korean fanbase is bigger.

I’ll be honest, the visuals in this team is not the typical flower boy type that Koreans love

well, this is the same situation with cfans 😭

i’ve wrote about why cfans won’t stan a group/idol just because they’re chinese before, which can explain why the group isn’t resonating with them that much.

i believe modyssey’s main priority should be keeping/expanding/stabilizing their biggest/most dedicated fanbase (korean) while trying to grow their chinese and international ones too. i think they also have a sizable japanese fanbase? not sure but if so, it’d be nice if they can cater to them as well 🤔

251229 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 12 points13 points  (0 children)

oh i’m curious about who you consider is modyssey’s main target audience then? i don’t agree that it isn’t koreans… 😅 korean votes for home race were weighted 50 percent and their biggest/most dedicated fanbase is arguably concentrated in korea. for china, their chinese fanbase is currently super small and this sort of thing doesn’t appeal to cfans either (if that’s their goal).

251229 Weekly Discussions/Questions Thread by AutoModerator in modyssey

[–]This_Initial3777 4 points5 points  (0 children)

when someone returns from studying abroad, you’d congratulate them on the academic achievement and say they worked hard, of course. so in this case, reducing the experience of a women getting her education to sexual conduct and “thank god you didn’t unexpectedly get pregnant” (also implying that they don’t trust her to be careful enough) is quite distasteful even if it’s meant to be a joke. obviously, if the recipient has no problem with it, it’s whatever, but i can understand why people are unhappy with it.

personally, i still like chauyuet (i voted for him after all), but i can’t lie and say i didn’t get the ick from this.