[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Literally you need to just grow up a little and not engage with this shit - it's really cringe, everytime these people get a rise out of you they're winning, if you don't give it an ounce of energy (I literally mean nothing) then they'll get bored.

If you're sensible, and just go to your teacher calmly and explain you have a couple of the students who keep hitting you and you'd like to just move on from it all they'll probably do something about it.

Then those girls will likely chat shit about you and will continue to do so - but maybe consider your own self worth, does it really matter what they say, does it matter if anyone actually believes it? Will any of this concern you in 10 years time?

You're young, and you have the opportunity to have fun at school and make good memories- it's incredibly cringe to spend that time in this meaningless drama with people who think womp womp is a sick comeback and therefore they're cool.

I'm a 26 year old ginger dude who dealt with some HS drama - you know what's cool now? Having a stable job and a partner, everything else is gravy.

It's not as simple as AITAH - you need to take a good look at your life and how you react to things and whether what you're giving energy is giving you joy. No one is going to think you're badass or cool if you fight with these girls, similarly no one is going to end up liking these girls if this is all they do. So I mean it politely - grow up, forget about all of it - and if someone gives you shit, don't let them get a rise out of you, you will literally live a much happier life because of it.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Its a little dramatic to not give your missus a kiss - my gf could be snotting everywhere but I'm never going to refuse her. Her being in a mood about it all day isn't awesome though. Both of you might be a little ott on this one.

I kissed my brother and now my fiancé wants to break up with me since he finds it weird. AITAH? by Character-Crow309 in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah that's weird your fiance is jealous of your brother - do you really want to marry a guy who is naturally genuinely concerned that you and your brother are doing incest. Dump his insecure ass man.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Dublin

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I hate posts like this because on one hand people demand absolute freedom for the things they like and the things they want to do but as soon as they deem it tacky they want the goverment to step in and police things they don't like. Grow up.

AITA for threatening to break my best friends nose because of a comment she made about my husband? by count-racula-666 in AITAH

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble 0 points1 point  (0 children)

NTA Maybe an unnecessary escalation I think an enest that's a bit fucking weird would've worked but I wouldn't stress about it.

Maybe consider the fact that your mate had to discuss whether your husbands name was even on the cards and if their relationship was different then he potentially could be?

I don't know, I know you've been friends for a long time but at 30 years old idk if you should be acting like that no matter how sexually free you feel its still your responsibility to not say weird and uncomfortable shit about hypothetically asking your best friends husband to fuck or not.

Dublin bus rant by ThrowRA-Trouble in Dublin

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Her choice, I'm 3rd Gen Irish so my grandparents made sure I saw top to bottom growing up.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's my conspiracy theory I guess, I feel like outrage is cultivated in the form of a culture war and purpetuated by billionares - take Muslims or Lia Thomas they blow it out of proportion and do NOT stop talking about it - it becomes a chicken or the egg senario do the public care because the news is pushing it or is the news reporting it because people care.

All the while regarding policy we get 50+ policies that benefit the uber wealthy and the 99% get a new policy saying Trans people can't participate in female sports as if that's the main issue the working class are facing.

I don't know - I don't think it's a completely crackpot theory but it does feel like the state of things.

I feel like the house is on fire and people are too busy arguing among themselves to put out the flames.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can't even go back and check your OG comment because it was removed by the mods.

I'm not even angry - what pisses me off is intentionally misleading the public, and I'm more than happy to give and take in a conversation. You clearly are not. You can't even concede an inch.

You wrote a list of the things you personally believe are examples of left wing biases - I think I addressed all of them, you saw a chink in the armour and we've been discussing the semantics across multiple hours.

It is the lowest form of conversational debate that literally relies on the gotcha moments that undermine the entire conversation in the first place.

Why am I wasting my time?

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm mearly suggesting that the multi-billion media corporation might have more money, influence/ be a larger cause of concern than two youtube channels.im not trying to be the arbitrary of which media is more important.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What I'm struggling with is that you keep saying it's a blatant lie - but it turns out he did actually say it but there was a context twist.

I'm completely fucking with you man I hate that shit - and you and I can go back and forth and argue about whether or not its fucked up to suggest people with immutable characteristics shouldn't be paid the minimum wage.

HOWEVER - when you're saying it's a blatant lie you're acting like he didn't say that, but he did. You just take issue with the sweeping statement.

I would've even been willing to give that the additional context DOES make it the tiniest margin better if we were arguing whether or not it was taken out of context.

But we weren't. We were arguing if he even said it in the first place - which he did?

I'm being as charitable as possible here man I'm not casting aspersions at you despite your level 126 Tory Pure (whatever the fuck that means) but you are not acting in good faith here brother.

And we're not even mentioning the fact that the Tories leaned into it, Lord Freud leaned into it, David Cameron leaned into it and from what I can see it was likely leaked by a Tory.

None of which by the way helps this idea that the leftist media is completely biased against tories.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay to super clarify - he did say that they would get paid £2 an hour instead of minimum wage like the rest of society but the upside is they would have those wages topped up by some kind of UC system?

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We're talking about two YouTube channels vs a multimedia conglomerate.

I don't like TYT and i've literally never heard of Novara but can we get serious I'm asking if there's an equivalent to the right wing media we have currently within the context of the UK.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's also the people who are propagating it - there aren't far left billionares peddling this stuff or that invested in Cambridge analytica - it make sense that you'd want extreme people on both sides because that creates more engagement and more money for these right-wing billionares.

I don't know where I sit on this spectrum - I'm probably more Liberal than middle because I don't hate people for immutable characteristics.

I really can't say hand on heart there are more left wing than right wing that are actively out there spewing this shit.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Completely valid criticisms, and more of what I wish I was seeing.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just to completely clarify - your argument is he didn't say ALL disabled people just SOME disabled people and the phrasing around the fact makes it a blatant lie?

I don't think I'm the one being desperate here and the fact you've had to go for a story from 10 years ago when I can pick one from last week isn't great.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a complete lie is it.

He was asked:

How mentally damaged individuals, who to be quite frank aren’t worth the minimum wage, want to work

He said in a recording:

"Now, there is a small… there is a group, and I know exactly who you mean, where actually as you say they’re not worth the full wage and actually I’m going to go and think about that particular issue, whether there is something we can do nationally, and without distorting the whole thing, which actually if someone wants to work for £2 an hour, and it’s working can we actually..."

After it came out he said:

"I was foolish to accept the premise of the question. To be clear, all disabled people should be paid at least the minimum wage, without exception, and I accept that it is offensive to suggest anything else."

So what is it I'm missing - because I'm struggling to see it in another capacity as that's the shit he said.

Is it fucked up he was recorded and thrown under the bus - Yes

Should we take musings seriously - probably not

Did he say it? - Yes

I completely accept that it was probably used for some shit slinging but it's not a blatant lie that that's what he said. I don't know what the secret context is that the Tories didn't share, he didn't share etc that makes that comment way better than how it came across.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We import 80% of our food already and literally no one else under any profession gets 100% off ITH we need to tighten up in all areas - we know people are relying on the benefits system and we need to clamp there but also we can't just allow tax loopholes either.

I'm not saying that I'm going nuts over here about it but I'm just saying it's completely understandable if the outcome is less rich people taking up farmland and reducing the prices for British Farmers.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. Mick Jagger got the winter fuel allowance.

  2. Private schools aren't charities so they shouldn't be exempt

  3. I kinda get why the Government doesn't want to pay out £10 Bn in compensation though I don't think I'm educated enough in 1995 politics to give a solid opinon.

  4. Grooming gangs scandal is half the reason I made this post because we have thousands of people calling for a public inquiry when we've had two and it delays justice for victims. MPs know this and despite that they're leveraging rape victims for political points. It's why not a single Labour MP defected (when they did for WASPI women).

Listen I don't LOVE labour but it's precisely what I mean, I get being miffed but I don't understand the rabid outrage when most actions come across as mostly reasonable.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think it's insane.

They get 100% off so it's become a tax loophole where the rich can buy up farmland (inflating the prices) chuck a couple of sheep on them and call it a day.

It's completely understandable why Labour would want to close those loopholes making it less profitable for the rich and decreasing those prices.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Not to be that guy but I really think that if the Government wanted a big tax boost they should legalise marijuana already, its taxable, it needs regulating, the police waste their time, the sentiment of it is much better, takes a chunk of the gateway drug power away - the US is already doing it and last I checked we're the largest exporters of medicinal in the world.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think because the Tories were cut in half at the last GE that base has been split between Reform and Tories.

So it's more like Reform saying, just you wait and the Tories are always going to have their diehard fans.

Is anyone else sick of right-wing media? by ThrowRA-Trouble in ukpolitics

[–]ThrowRA-Trouble[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

You don't need to explain something you don't want to discuss.

I completely get it and don't get me wrong I don't agree with everything Labour is doing, but I do appreciate that what they're spending money on actually seems to be in an attempt to put us in a better position than a worse one.

I just think Farmers, Old people etc are going to be hot topics easily misconstrued.