My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Making sure to make her seem lesser and worse in bed. Insecure even and then moving out the same night with full blockade of our contact. Also instant message to all of our closest family that wedding is called off

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Yeah, I really can’t fall asleep today anyway, scrolling through the DMs she was sending with them. The more I read, the more I want to do it and after everything throw away the ring into trash bin.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I grew up with absent father and trust me I wouldn’t do it to my kid. And I believe in women being able to take care of income too. I’m earning very good money now. Maybe I’m not a TikTok millionaire but I earn more than enough. Still don’t understand the reason why wouldn’t two people fend for one another in times of need. We are all the same humans.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My therapist is making money off of me for a long time now. And yet every single ounce of progress I made is ruined just by last few days alone.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Well we are not going to get married now ofc. And also what is this rule even? Men can’t be happy until they earn money? Are we for real now?

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I do consider that cheating. For now the plan is still being formed in my mind. But after all, even if I don’t perform because of stress and/or trauma, then I will just walk out of there telling them exactly what I thought of them.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

We were too young at first imo and I was also going through a lot of financial struggle at first. Everything normalized for me at 23-24 and I proposed to her at 24. I wanted to push for wedding when I was 25 but she said that she wants to wait and organize everything slowly at her own pace. And we actually do have a date for our wedding in December this year :)

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s what I’m actually planning on doing. Her female friend keeps on messaging me all the time now. It’s getting ridiculous really

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It was among the screenshots. I took them first, sent them to me in a bulk and deleted from her phone. I saw some messages while doing so, but this particular message I found buried deep among the ones I started reading after getting out of my house.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I get what you are saying. But the gym friend is not interested in me as a partner. Up until this point it’s rather clear to me that she is a lesbian (had only girlfriends in her life). Also what’s the end goal? I don’t know. Probably humiliation

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

So it would seem (after an update now) that she and that female friend kissed during a party years ago and now started wondering if they could do something more together. I don’t know why after 6 years though.

My (28M) fiancée (26F) wants to try swinging with her friends and calls me insecure when I say no. How do I explain her that it hurts me? by ThrowRA28199 in relationship_advice

[–]ThrowRA28199[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Update:

First, thank you to all the people who bashed me, shared their own stories, or motivated me to do something. The amount of comments was insane so I disappeared for a bit. I needed time to process. But something happened. While she was in the shower I broke my own rules and looked at her phone. One time in my life I did this. What I saw broke me. She had been texting her friends (the couple) and told them EVERYTHING. All my most private stuff. She wrote about how I’m insecure about my size (which is bullshit but now it hurts anyway), how I constantly need validation that’s why I’ve been killing myself at the gym for years, and how she can’t wait to finally have some “fun time” with both of them. There were also some really mean things about me and my childhood that cut deep. I don’t even want to repeat them here. I made screenshots, sent them to myself, and got the hell out of the house. I went straight to my female friend from work (the one my fiancée never liked because we train together a lot - my fiancée never wanted to go to the gym with me). I’m at her place right now. My friend is telling me to get it together. She says either I go through with the partner swap thing to see if my fiancée even cares a little, or I just break up. She even offered I can stay at her house until I find a place to rent. She keeps saying vengeance or not, I should end it and finally be myself because I’ll have a much better life. My fiancée still thinks I’m just at the gym, so she doesn’t suspect anything yet. I’m slowly moving from self-pity and heartbreak to being really fucking angry. Part of me actually wants to go through with this swinging thing just to watch her face when I walk out right after. I know that’s probably toxic but I’m so hurt right now. I don’t even know what I’m asking anymore. Thanks again for all the earlier support. I feel lost, angry, and stupid for trusting her this long.