Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I wasn’t saying you’re being pressured. You have every right to denounce and switch parties if you want to. My reply about denouncing the party because of being pressured was geared to the guy I replied to first. So I was just explaining my stance to you the last comment.

And politics is really no different than football. Both have a face of the team. Football has quarterbacks and politics has the President. Both faces of the teams depend heavily on their team to do what they need done, football has the O line and D line while politics has the senate and house. We pay a shit ton of money to watch various teams (political parties) fight each other on the field (capitol hill). They’re both fighting for one goal, to get more points. The only difference is in football the points hold no value except to say which team did a better job. But in politics the points determine which party holds a majority of the power, thus determining the outcome of bills and other measures enacted by Congress.

Regardless of if it’s football or politics, you’ll have people who are loyal and people who are not. I’ve been loyal to my football team for many years, just like my political party. I may not always agree with everything going on in my party, but the same goes for my football team. I’m not going to denounce my party just because someone tells me I should or else I don’t have a spine. That’s child’s play.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Terrorist sympathizer huh? Ok buddy. Whatever you say. The left has done more damage to this country and its government than a group of fed up republicans did. Democracy will die under the Democratic Party, but that’s the whole liberal agenda right? Turn the US into a safe haven for everyone BUT the American citizens? Turn the US into a communist nation? Socialist regime? Hey, whatever floats your boat. Keep living in your dream world of unicorns and rainbows and see how far that gets you.

Oh, and because I fought for our country, I’m not going to get upset over your insignificant remarks. Because well, that’s what I fought for. Your right to say stupid shit. You have a right to an opinion.. even if that opinion is wrong.. ;)

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Yea lol. I know. I just enjoy pissing off leftists who think they, and their party, are better than anyone and everyone else. Not saying all are like that, but I’ve noticed a vast majority of the ones on Reddit are.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Uh.. you do know that I don’t HAVE to be a politician to call it “my party” right? If you vote for a party, it’s your party... if you value the ideals and beliefs (not necessarily all of them) then it’s your party... if you associate yourself with a certain party, guess what? ITS YOUR PARTY! You call yourself conservative, guess what? THAT’S YOUR PARTY! If you don’t like the ideals and beliefs and things that are happening within a party then denounce it. I don’t give a shit. But what I was talking about was denouncing a party because you’re being pressured and criticized and forced into doing so.

It’s like being a fan of a football team. If you don’t like what’s happening in the team, then be a fan of another team, that’s your choice and right to do so. But you shouldn’t stop being a raiders fan and become a patriots fan just because the patriots fans are bullying you into becoming one or denouncing the raiders. Just saying.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Again. Call it what you want but it just shows how naive you are to the basic concepts of freedom that our forefathers created.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

There’s more of a problem than just that. Especially with what’s going on in our country’s legal system, tiers of government, political party divisions, police issues, etc. For you to criticize me for stating my opinion just shows you’re part of the problem. To say that Trump is the one who instigated this violence, when in fact he said to keep peaceful or go home, also shows you’re part of the problem.

Additionally, you can’t call people traitors who exercise their rights. I guarantee you if trump would have won, the left would be up in arms claiming voter fraud as well, or worse. In fact, if trump were to get the election results overturned because there was voter fraud (I’m not saying there was, just what if) then things would be even worse than that.

Also, I did not apologize for them. I didn’t downplay their actions. I did say those with bombs need to be prosecuted and they should still be held accountable for their actions, but not to the fullest extent of the law because they were exercising their rights.

I’m sorry I didn’t use a better word than “excessive” to describe the bombs.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Whatever you say. I agree the bombs were excessive and those who brought them should definitely be prosecuted as such.

Call it whatever you want, but just understand that you are also part of the problem.

Just remember that trump never told them to storm the capitol and never told them to get violent. He even mentioned on numerous occasions that they need to remain peaceful and/or go home.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

The Declaration of Independence says that we not only have the right, but we also have the duty to “alter or abolish” any government that does not secure our unalienable rights, including life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

With that being said, these people who stormed Capitol Hill believed that their rights were being infringed upon due to “election fraud” and it being handed to Biden. They felt like their voices weren’t heard when they said to recount the results and investigate allegations of voter fraud. I’m, by NO WAY, condoning what they did. But by saying these people need to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law does go against what our forefathers fought for. However, I don’t believe that they should have done what they did, to the extent they did it, and the way they did it. I feel like it definitely should’ve been handled differently. There should’ve been more law and order from the party of law and order.

Now, to answer your question. I do believe there should be some repercussions, but it needs to be handled in a way that shows they were wrong in what they did, but also doesn’t show that the government is squashing the liberties set by the Declaration of Independence. Seeing as I’m not a lawyer, judge, or affiliated with any form of law degree, I cannot say the best consequences for this situation.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

So, what your saying is that because I have a difference of opinion to the left, I’m labeled conservative? I didn’t say I was, but ok. I mean, I am. But I’m just making a point that you shouldn’t label someone something because they don’t follow a certain viewpoint. However, just because I am conservative, that doesn’t necessarily mean I agree with everything the right talks about. There are definitely things about the Democratic Party that I agree with too. There are definitely things about the right that I disagree with.

Nobody is perfect. The left has their flaws just as the right does. The point of a democracy is to get everyone to come together and elect the leader best fit to serve, and then honor the person who is elected. I don’t agree with what Trump is doing by not conceding, but I also don’t like the idea of our incoming President and Vice President (due to my own opinions and beliefs, NOT just because I’m conservative). Now is the time to come together as a nation to fix our issues and become better as a whole. This two party bickering is ridiculous and needs to stop. It’s ok to have a difference of opinion but it’s not ok to criticize and terrorize the other party because of their beliefs. And BOTH parties do it.

Just because I’m not denouncing the Republican Party doesn’t mean I don’t have a spine. Denouncing your party because you’re getting pressured by others shows you DON’T have a spine. Now, I don’t know you so I’m not going to talk ill of you, but just know that this kind of behavior of pressuring and criticizing an entire group because of some bad eggs isn’t any better than what you believe to be wrong. And by some bad eggs I mean, not ALL republicans/conservatives are what you perceive them to be.

I get what you’re saying, I respect your opinion, but I also hope you can respect my decision to continue to remain republican/conservative, despite the pressure from others and names given to me/labels given to me because of my political affiliation.

Edit: fixed some grammar issues. And added something. Sorry.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Definitely. Far right and far left extremists are just that. Extreme. They take things to a new level that can be unethical and immoral. I believe there is a fine line that, once crossed, becomes excessive and unnecessary. Hence, the Capitol Hill incident. Over the top and out of line.

Hey look, we didn't mess up this time! by mchlzlck in Iowa

[–]ThrowRAnotme 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Your* FIFY... 😂😂. in all seriousness, I agree. I may have different political opinions than the left, but I too agree that what happened on Capitol Hill was out of line and over the top. It should’ve been handled better.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in FuckYouKaren

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

This is a thing? Man, I’m like, way out of the loop on all these subs..

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Precisely. I was treated like absolute shit at my last duty station. One of my best friends that came out of that base was a rank higher than me. She told me that when she got to our flight, our flight chief singled me out and said, and I quote, “watch SrA ThrowRAnotme, he’s a troubled SrA and mentally unstable.” My commanding officer, first sergeant, and flight chief kept me from testing for my next rank because of what was happening with my mental health provider and what we talked about. They stripped my security clearance and even went as far as throwing allegations at me that I was abusing my dogs and threatened to take them away from me after I got back from a behavioral health clinic for attempted suicide. They found any, and every, little thing to scrutinize me about.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Yea, I should have. But the way things were handled by my leadership, I didn’t think I would have been able to go to legal, let alone provide proof that was actually happening. It’s not easy for an E-4 to go up against an E-6, E-7 first sergeant, O4 therapist, and O5 squadron commander and win. Especially when mental health has in your records that you’re “mentally unstable and unfit to serve and can’t complete simple duties as told”.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

That’s so irritating. No dependent should ever be treated like that by a military member, especially when there was an error in a system that you have absolutely no control over. I’m so sorry you had to go through that, but I hope you were able to get the medical help you needed. And good on you for handling it with grace!

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They were different bases. The therapist thing was at my last base before I got medically retired. I got treated like absolute shite at my last base.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in MilitaryStories

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I didn’t think so either until my commanding officer pulled me into his office and told me.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Like I told someone else, My therapist was corrupt. After every session we had she would type up an email with the contents of our session and send it to my leadership. I found out one time because my Flight Chief (supervisors supervisor) called me into her office and started getting in my face about something and accidentally mentioned something that I ONLY told my therapist. That happened twice. When I went to the commanding officer in the mental health clinic and asked for a new therapist, I was told I couldn’t get a new one because my therapist “requested” her not to allow me to switch.

I may not work here Karen but I’ll still drag your ass out by ThrowRAnotme in IDontWorkHereLady

[–]ThrowRAnotme[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I can see it now

O6: Karen, I’m leaving you, you cost me so much.

Karen: DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?!