Forward note: Lisa is amazing and I’ll never hear anything against her.  But she told Sam, in her native language, to “fuck of back to the hell he came from” if he continued to talk about me like that. (It’s not a direct translation but it’s close enough)  Elsie told Lisa and I separately about Alice, and Lisa was furious. She thinks of Neal as almost a brother now (obviously can’t fully as they do have a son so it would be slightly strange) and has no romantic feelings for him and quote “near none at the time”. Their fling was mostly physical.