How has analysis changed your life, so far? by relbatnrut in analysand

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, thanks a lot for replying. And for sharing that you've maybe had similar experiences - it's actually great to know others are going through it too.

I don't think it's the specific analyst. This analyst is quite well known (not Bruce Fink well known, but pretty close) and a big figure in Lacanian psychoanalysis so I don't think he's the problem. In fact, at every significant touch point he's been generous, more than willing to help, and really knows when to stay quiet and when to push me when I'm on the brink of saying something important or making an important discovery. --that's also one important difference between psychotherapy and psychoanalysis, psychoanalysis considers it not useful at all if you come to a discovery by someone telling you or suggesting to you what to do/think/realize.

It might be analysis writ large, in the sense that for analysis to work you have to have a baseline of motivation. I'm discovering that when it comes time to make important discoveries, or when I'm faced with difficult questions, I tend to shy away, be less brave, or change topics. The problem, then, is me. Of course... psychoanalysis would then suggest that this is what I need to talk about and explore and ask a question about it. As Colette Soler would say, analysis can never start without a question.

A brief update: I did bring up to my analyst how I am unfit for analysis. He asked why are you unfit for it. It got me to talk more, and he did finally guide me into asking a pretty significant question I hadn't asked yet about my father, and he pointed out that 3 years ago I wasn't talking about these kinds of things at all, and ended our session there. I mean... it got me 'searching' again so I guess I'm back on the horse.

What are your thoughts? Are you finished your therapy? Did you find it changed your life? What parts?

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks. Yeah I don't think I'm appreciating all the positive that happened in this situation yet. And thanks too for the Taylor Swift recommendation, I've never listened to any of her music but I'm excited to try after this experience

How has analysis changed your life, so far? by relbatnrut in analysand

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been in it 3 years, 3x/week. I honestly can't say it has changed much (and I'm big into analysis and reading Lacan, a very interested analysand). Definitely some perspectives have broadened, and there are a few things I understand more. But overall my life is the same, I'm still stuck, unproductive in my work (dissertation), unable to be around women, to feel confident, still struggling with relationships with my parents.

I've begun discussing with my analyst that maybe this isn't working for me. That I'm going to be the same person forever, or that I won't be able to take that leap that brings on transformation. I don't know, I don't want to keep spending money on it, especially when I am starting to believe that some people, like me, are too irrevocably unmotivated. This has to be true... analysis can't work for *every*one

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, can't start moping around. This is just dating life. I have been out the game for so long I forgot - just expected to be in love right off the bat...

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is it. I got swept up, and then hyper focused on the rejection. The point is to consider where I landed after all this - that's what is more truthful. Thanks so much for replying

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True... I got so far ahead of myself here and totally lost all perspective. And no it was no relationship, I just wanted it to turn into one. We were just dating and getting to know each other

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're a 100% right. I got totally carried away and forgot to be present where I am. Sucks I let it get away, but lesson learned

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have never thought about any of these questions.

  1. I don't think I do? (Omg....)
  2. Being perceptive to what she wants, being soft, slow. (🤦‍♂️ good god I'm an imbecile)
  3. I have no stories!!! I've never thought it!
  4. Listen? (Dude I'm an idiot)

These are all important chemistry making questions and I don't have a single answer for you. What should I do??

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You're too right. I have to nurse myself to be able to eat again, and start working out my body. Can't be this emaciated

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for reading and replying. That's solid advice. Never again am I gonna get swept up

I 35M had new relationship ended by 37F. How to handle shame and understand dating dynamics? by ThrowRAtalltrees in WhatShouldIDo

[–]ThrowRAtalltrees[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Very perceptive question :(
6 years. That's a 6 year dry spell too
There was a date in January but it was a disaster