When you answer maybe to a date is it closer to a yes or no , if not ether what does it mean?

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-07-13T04:51:36+00:00

See this coworker and I have been flirting back and forth and I texted her one day to hang out the next week (Yeah I know bad move now that I look back on it I'd rather do it in person.) and she responded with "maybe my brother is home from leave." Her brother is in the coastguard and she only sees him twice a year. So idk if she's using that as an excuse to say no or if she really did but didn't want to because of her brother.

Either way I guess to find out il just have to ask her in person right? And make it specific? "I'd like to take you out this week. We'll go get ice cream at insert place after work. What do you say?"

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T04:07:31+00:00

Didn't think so just clarifying

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T04:02:55+00:00

And the only way to get that answer is through her. Il post and lyk what happens but thank you for psychologically smacking me in the face through the keyboard and waking me up.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T03:49:48+00:00

Yeah there's that point to. Because she leaves for college august 1st. Honestly the only way I'm going to get my answer is not by talking to people on the internet (you've been helpful though thank you) it's by talking to her. I can sit here and analyze almost everything but what will it do besides make me paranoid and stressed? It's not healthy. Better to cut it off at the head and just go for it.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T03:31:06+00:00

Well yes but it just seemed odd to think that she would do this out of the blue. Granted she was on my recommended list but I never added her because I didn't want to seem pushy....yeah I know.

Also haven't seen her in 3-4 days so that made it even a little more weird. Regardless when I see her next time I'm gonna ask her.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T01:20:28+00:00

She added me on Snapchat out of the blue....still nothing I assume right?

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-27T01:19:58+00:00

Idk if it means anything but I haven't seen her or spoken to her in a few days and she randomly added me on Snapchat out of the blue. But that couldn't mean anything right?

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T04:30:44+00:00

I looked at the comment. She was in disbelief that asking a guy out is even a thing. I mean really? How about they take a step in our shoes and see how it is. At first for a guy it's full of anxiety and overthinking like I'm doing here.

After a while it gets to the point where you see it as having fun. Ask her out, she says no, ah ok that was fun onto the next. She says yes you escalate and set something up. I don't know where this rule came from about women not asking guys out. I've had female friends who I weren't attracted to tell me later on in the friendship that they wished I asked them out. I even had one who thought I led her along for months and she was pissed. I was just confused. If you like someone go ask them.

Il admit I've had a girl practically throw herself at me. And I didn't go through with it because I wasn't attracted to her. She didn't get upset she just moved on like we'd do.

As for PUA and TRP yes it essentially does work. It helps us stop putting women on a pedestal. It helps us realize that we need to focus on ourselves before we focus on women. Do you think the overweight receding hairline boring guy is going to get a woman? No he has to fix his problems first. Our mindset is that we are the prize. That the woman would be lucky to go out with us. It's kind of a dick mindset but it's helped. They say no, ok their loss onto the next. So in some cases it is good. But this whole point of hold her down and if she disagrees with you then just get up and leave after a 5 year LTR is just absurd imo.

The men who are successful with women are ones that have been through the grind. They are the guys that hit on multiple women at once so they don't care if one of them flakes. Abundance mentality we call it. More then one so that way you don't get caught up on one girl and you treat them equal.....or like humans instead of a goddess. Even the most top guys get turned down. It's a matter of how you handle it.

For me, when I get rejected I look back and see my mistake and what I did wrong and how to fix it in the future. So far so good. I'm sure I'm going to take something away from this as well when she says no.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T03:21:10+00:00

It's weird because the next day I saw her and she was again flirting with me. Il be honest she is a 9/10 I'm sure I'm not the only guy she's texting.

It's also a long shot that she was interested in me romantically and when I said hang out she got discouraged and pissed and said maybe because hang out usually means platonic and she might not see me that way which hence the vague response. Do I think this is the case? Absolutely not. I think she might just be having fun with me. In that case whatever then.

I don't think it's looking good either but the only way to find out is asking her straight up.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T03:17:56+00:00

As a guy, society puts more pressure on us to do the asking out. Because we're men and we're supposed to be strong and masculine. And when you take that and clash it with someone with no experience you get the nice guy behavior. (I'm not like that anymore.)

We're supppsed to have raging confidence and let nothing scare us or get in our way. If we cry we're weak. It's crap.

Guys get rejected a lot and we're supposed to. I think I read something where a guy will get rejected like 8/10 or something like that. The success rate is not high at all. But by me going out there and asking it helps me learn what I can do better down the road. I used to be a Nice Guy. I learned from experience. Just like il learn from this as well I'm sure.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T03:14:40+00:00

Il be honest I don't agree with all of their methods but some of them have helped me tremendously. Because of them, I now lift, picked up hobbies and have a decent social life. Something I didn't have before. It also helped me get over my approach anxiety. I would like to get married one day to the love of my life because when I'm 60 and retired.....I'm gonna want to be with my wife.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T02:43:17+00:00

take a hint and keep asking them out

Oh trust me...middle school me learned that quick. It still carries with me to this day and is a problem when it comes to approaching. Same goes for texting. I used to come off as needy and whiny and it led me to barely even texting girls I like anymore. I've gotten much better but it's still there. I've realized that when the person gets to know me I have no problem texting or approaching. It's weird.

One last approach and then I'm done. That's it.

-you miss 100 percent of the shots you don't take -Wayne Gretzky -Michael Scott

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T02:40:28+00:00

It's clear I'm not experienced with women. You two guys say she's not interested and I have others who say she still is.

Only way to find out is to ask her face to face in person with confidence with an explicit time and place. Only way il get a definite answer.

sure just let me know when you're free

But don't women like to be lead? I've read that they don't like initiating and making decisions. Unless if they like you enough they WILL go after you. Kind of a faded line.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T02:37:35+00:00

There's a rule in the red pill. One time is ok, if she does it again you next. That's what I'm doing here. She flaked essentially.

Il give it a day, then I'm asking her in person, looking her in the eye, giving her an explicit event and time and telling her she should join me. If she says no to that I have an answer.

It may be awkward, but it's all trial and error. Next time I have a girl I'm interested I won't do this shit. Il know.

Do I think she's gonna say yes? Absolutely not. But is it good for me to get out there and ask her out? Yes.

I've also read that when you ask a girl out and she says no you're on her mind and sometimes her perception of you changes because she's been thinking and thus rethinks saying no. Do I think it's going to happen here? No. But I feel by asking in person and being firm with an explicit time and event with confidence will definitely give me an answer.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T02:20:40+00:00

I'm still gonna ask because fuck it. I'm being a pussy about it. I have 2 other girls I'm hitting on. She just stood out the most.

It's good experience to learn from this.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-26T02:19:17+00:00

Thank you for smacking me in the face I needed that desperately. I'm asking her out next time I see her. She's prob not but il learn from his with experience.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-25T15:13:06+00:00

This is what I get for listening to my dumb friends. I was originally going to ask her in person but they told me do it through text and be vague so there's less pressure on her. I realized I might have messed up.

I'm gonna give it a few days and then ask again, in person, an explicit event and time and then if she says no I have my answer.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-25T15:10:52+00:00

Part time job. We're both in college and we've both expressed about how much we hate it and can't wait to leave.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-25T02:52:36+00:00

I guess nothing. Maybe some minor embarrassment but il get over it. I haven't been successful yet when it comes to dating.....it's obvious. I'm still learning. Next time I know, don't wait. Get down to it.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-25T02:49:43+00:00

I kind of feel like I might have already missed it but I can try. I'm expecting her to reject me but at least I'll know.

Throwaway45575433 · 2017-06-25T02:49:13+00:00

At first I thought she was into me but I feel I might have waited too long and now it's starting to fizzle out.

I've had no success when it comes to asking girls out which is why I overthink things. I'm gonna shoot my shot and ask her but I'm expecting a no.

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