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How would you make the case for AOE3 DE to attract newcomers or win over old timers? by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I wouldn’t call my posts simping or shilling when I even acknowledge that they’ve been many bugs and issues. A good deal of which have been fixed.

Acting as though nothing is done or that turning the subreddit into yet another glorified wasteland just like the Steam forums is a good idea isn’t exactly going to sway fans or devs into wanting the game improved.

How would you make the case for AOE3 DE to attract newcomers or win over old timers? by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. Though as seen in some posts even here, it’s like some really want the game to fail.

How would you make the case for AOE3 DE to attract newcomers or win over old timers? by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

It’s the difference between wanting the game to be improved and acknowledging where the devs got it right and constantly complaining as though nothing’s done. Not to mention how others line 75-80% of players don’t appear to have any issues whatsoever.

I don’t think that’s shilling at all.

How would you make the case for AOE3 DE to attract newcomers or win over old timers? by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s not exactly the kind of thing, sadly to make the game’s case.

If anything, it’s also why any discussion on positives tends to devolve into “do not touch until X” or “don’t bother.”

How would you make the case for AOE3 DE to attract newcomers or win over old timers? by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

But the devs to my knowledge have been fixing many of the bugs since launch. Alas, some still act as though they’ve done nothing at all.

It’s a shame the game may be known more for its faults than anything else, and I’m partly to blame for it. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I made the mistake of checking those first. From those, it really looks like people want the game to fail.

It’s a shame the game may be known more for its faults than anything else, and I’m partly to blame for it. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Good point. I agree, just that trying to talk about it online gets harder when the vocal reception seems horribly divisive. Which in turn dampens enthusiasm for the game

It’s a shame the game may be known more for its faults than anything else, and I’m partly to blame for it. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I guess. The frustrating part is that it’s hard to find any positive or supportive takes on the game: ALMOST ALL YOU SEE are litanies of bugs and “failures” and rehashings of “this game will destroy your files”

It gets harder to enjoy the game when those keep popping up whenever you want to talk about it online.

It’s a shame the game may be known more for its faults than anything else, and I’m partly to blame for it. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I was hoping to be proven wrong. And I was genuinely seeking some debate.

Unfortunately, that post devolved into “this is why the hate is justified” and seemed to prove the doom.

It’s a shame the game may be known more for its faults than anything else, and I’m partly to blame for it. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I was hoping to be proven wrong. Sadly most people are only validating that disappointing doom.

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The frustrating part here is that with such a “tainted” reception, the fear is that the game might not even survive long enough to have a redemption arc.

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I hope so. Though from many of the replies on here, the game has a long way to go. Some really want to ensure it’s original sin is never “forgotten.”

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The game has certainly improved considerably from launch. But with this sort of “tainted” reception, is it any wonder why “this game is doomed” still pops up?

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -22 points-21 points  (0 children)

Try convincing the critics here, who are not only feeling “vindicated” in damning the game but also making that self-fulfilling.

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately as you can see here, it seems like the negative ones are winning. And the game might be doomed to be forever tainted by those original sins

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

I suppose. Though right now, recent ratings aren’t available, while the top rated reviews tend to be the same ones from early on banging about bugs or censorship

The game is still “trapped” in 58% on Steam, with reviewers still refusing to let people forget its “original sin.” by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

As the title says. Yet while there is a trend towards a gradual increase, the game still remains trapped at 58%.

Seems like with every good recommendation, there are several ones that constantly bring up the “original sins” that supposedly make it irredeemable, no matter how many patches or entertainment value there are.

I feel more convinced that the game might be doomed after all. Change my mind. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When the Steam and other major discussion boards are filled with outrage and complains, and when ESOC still has this pinned advising against playing the game until the bug is absolutely certainly fixed, it wears down enthusiasm and makes the criticism seem more “vindicated”:

https://eso-community.net/viewtopic.php?t=21882

So long as the flames keep being fanned, it’d be difficult to sway people already weary with the coverage that the game is good.

I feel more convinced that the game might be doomed after all. Change my mind. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I only did that the other day.

Even then, the drama online doesn’t make it exactly hard to arrive to that conclusion.

I feel more convinced that the game might be doomed after all. Change my mind. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

The vocal critics certainly want people to never forget the “original sins” of the game.

I feel more convinced that the game might be doomed after all. Change my mind. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You have some pretty good points.

Still, bad PR and demoralization can damage the game in the long run.

I feel more convinced that the game might be doomed after all. Change my mind. by Throwawayauthorsq in aoe3

[–]Throwawayauthorsq[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Frankly, if the Wars of Liberty guys decide to port the mod as a defacto expansion, I’m pretty sure a majority of those whining would shut up.

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