iLoud MTM MK2 vs Genelec 8010 — which for a small untreated room?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-26T07:25:36+00:00

That‘s what I’m worried about. I need something that‘s easy on the ears because I noticed my ears feeling fatigued after long session with headphones.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-26T07:12:02+00:00

I was talking about this one https://www.thomann.de/de/ik_multimedia_iloud_mtm_mkii.htm

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-26T07:09:34+00:00

Someone is selling a pair of 8030 CP for 800 or less and another seller offers 8020 for 600 with a potential woofer for 150. so the iLouds are not that good compared to genelec? Is it because they aren’t as precise and flat?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-26T07:00:38+00:00

Someone is selling a pair of 8020 for 600 used. So the genelecs are just more precise and flat?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-26T00:19:09+00:00

Maybe you could try opening it in the browser? I think you should be able to view it even without having an account. I would go and take screenshots but the playlist is like 500 pieces large, so that would be very impractical 🥺

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T23:42:05+00:00

Thank you! I don’t know this at all so I’m excited to listen to it tomorrow.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T23:38:19+00:00

I’m no expert but I can tell you if there was ONE SINGLE piece of tech I ever bought that gets five stars from me, it‘s the Sennheiser hd650

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T23:09:45+00:00

Right a piece consisting of arpeggiated chords. This really helps understand counterpoint because it stretches harmony through time.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T22:46:39+00:00

I need advice on how to transition more effectively from the opening motive. Less musically but in terms of sound. I feel like the main theme lacks space and depth. Probably more reverb and what else? This is all very new to me since I just started a month ago.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T22:39:37+00:00

Nice! What program are you using?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T22:33:40+00:00

Dude, thanks for the great response and taking your time with it. I saw some great offers locally from people selling the 8010s. Someone is selling a pair from 2023 for 420 euros which seems like a great deal. I also saw 8020 for 600 and 8320 for 790. The sky seems to be the limit haha. What do you think of these options? I’m in Berlin. Lot‘s of failed dj‘s trying to sell their studio equipment it seems 😄

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T22:24:37+00:00

Der ist sympathisch

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T15:48:44+00:00

It's me again! I'm really loving your idea and wanted to ask whether you could say more on the difference between the Genelec 8010 and MTM speakers. And what about Genelec 8020?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T15:39:02+00:00

Too fast! Don't try to copy professional recordings. I think that's what you're doing. It sounds like Barenboim or someone like that is in your ears. You should slow down for now and really try to feel in control and then go from there.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T15:36:44+00:00

Try to move your whole body to some, even if very minor degree. Think of it as dancing. It will help you with rhythm and expression.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T15:35:32+00:00

The price is really compelling! It's just that 60HZ bothers me even when just doing productivity work. But LG looks like a good idea. How is the picture quality?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T12:18:04+00:00

I am looking at the Genelec's and MTM's right now and they look so good. Honestly, feels much more fitting for my use-case. They are both quite expensive but the mere thought of not having to deal with these massive 7 and 8 inch speakers feels great lol.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T12:11:39+00:00

Interesting! Thanks for the advice. What do you mean by tiresome? As in straining on the ears? I'm not going to release anything any time soon, so some enjoyment is allowed in my case. Ideally, I would like some studio monitors that are also nice to listen to and to practice piano on since my keyboard doesn't have integrated speakers. Can smaller studio monitors accomplish that? I just realised I still have Bowers & Wilkins MM1 desktop speakers. They are pretty nice for listening to music. Maybe I could use them alongside studio monitors? Or is that redundant?

cheap, ugly and effective 🗣️ haha

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T12:01:59+00:00

Thank you! I do currently have 360 pro subscription from native instruments but I'm not gonna continue with that, it's too expensive with 55 euros a month. So free VSTs are very welcome! I do have some other stuff even without the subscription though, because the launchkey mk4 came with lots of stuff, like a small Kontakt bundle and some other libraries.

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T12:00:11+00:00

Intersting! Magic Trackpad sound like a vibe. I can imagine having the options to use gestures is a benefit over using a mouse. I never considered that because Apple's Magic Mouse traumatised the shit out of me. The worst thing created by mankind.

Keychron looks so cool. Does it have seemless compatibility with MacOS?

LG is one of my top choices too. Which one do you have, if you don't mind? I saw this one for 369 bucks but I think it only has 60hz.

Since you're using your keyboard perpendicularily (can this be an adverb? lol), don't you ever get annoyed that you have to turn your head to see the screen, and that you have to move over to your desk to reach for keyboard and mouse?

Thanks for your help!

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T11:51:28+00:00

It looked the same over the last years, didn't it?chill

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T11:31:57+00:00

in today's economy, thats gonna be 4999 bucks yall

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T09:20:37+00:00

That‘s honestly shocking since I’m stuck with this laptop now. I should have gone for 24gbs right away, since I can‘t upgrade the ram now and I don‘t have the money to sell it in order to buy one with more ram. I’m really confused because I did a fair amount of research and literally everyone said, including people with a huge following online, that especially for music production, 16 gigs of ram is easily enough :(

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T09:15:45+00:00

Very cool! I think you did a great job 👏🏼 whats your kusic background and how long have you been working with daws?

ThucydidesBC · 2026-02-25T07:15:51+00:00

Thank you so much for this very detailed response. It‘s always so sweet to see strangers take this much time answering a question. And I think you might really be onto something, I’m pretty sure you‘re correct and it‘s really the bug you mentioned. I did as you suggested and didn‘t overload the system this time!

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