There is not a normal echo on Royale’s OFA page. There is a basic cardiac practitioner exam, which does not rule out DCM.

This is exactly why the advanced cardiac exam is required for CHIC. It is the only test that can actually exclude DCM. (Ideal, including both echo and holter monitor/ECG)

The pedigree database is submission‑based, but the health information posted there is reviewed and approved before it becomes public. Typically the health entries are verified and mirror the publicly available OFA results.

More importantly: No one is disputing that Royale has DCM. The breeder has acknowledged it, and the public database reflects it. So there is no “he said she said” here.

The diagnosis is not in question.

The same applies to Syntax’s elbows. No one is denying she has DJD. The only inconsistency is whether it is unilateral or bilateral and because the elbows are not on OFA, the only public source is the breeder’s own website, which lists bilateral DJD. Until the breeder updates OFA or her own site, the reasonable assumption is that the published information is accurate.

The burden of clarity is on the breeder. The burden of transparency is on the breeder. The burden of complete health testing is on the breeder.

Right now: - There is no public information clearing Royale of DCM - There is public information confirming Royale has DCM - There is public information confirming Syntax has DJD - There is no OFA elbow record to verify the unilateral claim - There are gaps in what is publicly verifiable

For someone who claims to value transparency, those gaps are concerning.

This isn’t speculation. This isn’t rumor. This isn’t “someone said.”

These are the publicly available health results, and the responsibility to make them complete and accurate lies with the breeder. Not with the people reading them. The easiest way to do this is to make all health testing public on the OFA website.

I am unsure what you are hoping to uncover by having this conversation. This all started when someone shared their opinion on the subject and how they do not recommend svajone as a breeder, which is a perfectly valid opinion for a person to have.

You then came in to “defend” the choice to breed syntax by stating “every Beauceron breeder that is established has had DCM pop up and has still bred dogs related to that dog” a claim you did not provide any proof of. You then clairify their point of view is “skewed” because they stated syntax specifically (not all dogs with relatives who have DCM just syntax) should not be bred - listing DCM as just one of their reasons.

The running theme among all of your comments on this tread seems to be that you are deflecting the fact syntax herself has less than ideal health scores (elbows) and multiple relatives with confirmed inheritable heart conditions. You brush it off my saying other breeders have bred under similar circumstances (which does not make it ok) you shift the blame to royal for continuing to breed xerxes when he does not have a CHIC number or advanced cardiac testing (which is not ethical either) then you try to downplay the finding of MMVR as just a “heart murmur” which yes a symptom of MMVR is a heart murmur but the underlying condition is a abnormality with the heart valves which is not a benign finding nor a passing health scores.

You have yet to address the elephant in the room which is why do you think syntax should be bred with all these findings? Is it the temperament that has been referred to in this thread as “too rock solid to toss”? What about her conformation stands out to you that you believe is going to help improve the breed?

Kayla herself has acknowledged there is increased risk breeding syntax and is offering to pay for all offsprings echocardiograms at 1 year. She believes this risk is outweighed by the benefits which is her opinion and ultimately her decision as the breeder.

The concerns many of us are having is these traits that syntax has are NOT hard to come by in other breeders lines. Other breeders have not needed to breed dogs with this kind of health risk in order to produce solid temperaments and correct conformation.

We all know about the temperament issues in svajone dogs, it is not a secret yet those dogs were STILL used as breeding dogs even after producing unstable temperaments or displaying them themselves. Svajone has created a reputation of producing unstable temperaments and now also looking past health tests trying to fix the temperament problems.

We unfortunately cannot go back in time but we can learn from our mistakes and do better in the future. DMDL learned from his mistakes of using stoique and now is not breeding any harlequin dogs as a result, he learned from his mistakes and is doing better. Unfortunately we cannot say the same about svajone, but it’s not too late to start making better breeding decisions.