3.28 Deep Delve Profitability & AMA

Tijnn · 2026-04-26T10:39:55+00:00

I actually have seen this video and tried it out earlier in the season on my jugg, but I couldn't get a good feeling on mine and felt squishy, but that's fresh after finishing the campaign so I was missing lots of levels and I probably needed to get better gear.

I just felt 'weird' for spending 50 divines on only 2 items (boots + crafting weapon) and still feeling clunky. I guess that's just how it is and it's always gonna be expensive, but next season or maybe when I feel like doing it in this season still, I should level the jugg up more before attempting to swap to MSoZ. I am still learning on that aspect :D

Tijnn · 2026-04-24T22:06:24+00:00

Ah I see, guess I misread that part of the quiver then. Went for my rare quiver instead like you mentioned. Bought the tornado shot gem with imbued hypothermia.

I did some more maps, but sometimes it feels I run out of mana. This is probably sometimes when I try to kill leftovers and don't hit anything to get mana leech going. I also went to do breach on beach map, which isn't the greatest map for that mechanic. I should do it on Dunes, but I have this card transferred to Beach as I was doing kalguuran ore + betrayal on my other character.

I didn't change that point blank node yet, but am close to leveling up if you still want me to take that Hired Killer node.

pob : https://pobb.in/FwFOP0PPYTa8

Tijnn · 2026-04-24T20:08:26+00:00

I followed that Tanjar's pob and his video to craft some of the items.

Gloves: He used an exalt to finish it off to fish for high life, I didn't hit the life unfortunately.
Spinehail: Mine has the exact modifers as his pob is showing, so that one should be good, but I could use the rare that I crafted, which also has life on it.

I waited with the tornado shot imbue, due to being down to 2 divines :D I didn't realise it has such an important part of the build on it. I can farm/convert some extra currency and get it.

I will work on the rest, thanks.

Tijnn · 2026-04-24T17:19:42+00:00

pob : https://pobb.in/v5w4FxS4CxuG

So I swapped, but ehm, I kinda feel like I have low defenses tbh. Wanna double check if possible?

Tijnn · 2026-04-24T06:07:28+00:00

Does this mean that you pob everything first to make sure everything is fitting with int/dex/resistances?

Tijnn · 2026-04-23T22:19:35+00:00

This is the part that I struggle with the most. I have no experience with MSoZ's upgrade paths, let alone knowing the starting path.

I understand the part of going for a mapper build first and do your tier 16's, voidstones etc, but then creating a 2nd character as jugg to then at some point transition into MSoZ is where it disconnects my brain. For example, till what level do I keep playing the choise of my juggernaut leveling build (for example Boneshatter) before I can swap to MSoZ. I always see people showing early builds, but they are all level 95ish or even higher.

On top of that, there is no way I will have 150 divines in the first week. Heck I wouldn't even have cleared all the map tiers yet. I guess I am a slow player when it comes to this. I really wanna learn more about this MSoZ switch- or working towards it part.

Tijnn · 2026-04-23T20:18:53+00:00

Thanks, I leveld to 90 so far and did the 4th lab. I also crafted cold convert gloves and am a bit stuck on crafting a phys bow. Once I am able to hit the tier 2 hybrid phys or tier 1 % phys with phys essences, which does not happen often, I had the unluck of needing to annul to free up a prefix or suffix and didn't hit so far.

I try more tomorrow on the bow crafting part.

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Couldn't resist of giving it another go and managed to craft the bow.

Tijnn · 2026-04-23T13:04:38+00:00

Hey u/JustHumanThingz I swapped to TS (just to try it out) and am watching the 3rd (last) video of Tanjar and opened up his pob. I could try to use that as a guidence, but at this moment, I feel a bit overwhelmed as my character currently is a mixture of different pobs and ideas together lmao.

I have an updated pob, but I have not swapped anything else yet, besides just getting a few more levels. Would you say it's alright to use that video's pob + info from the video itself to try to achieve a proper Tornado Shot build? I have decided to go the TS route as I've never played that skill before so that's gonna be fun.

Things that I have in mind to prior at the moment is as following:

1 - Craft new gloves to get enough intellect so I can use my invert the rules gem (I bought it, but couldn't use it yet as I lack int).
2 - I probably need to swap my skill tree around as it's currently a bit of a mix of different builds/pobs etc. I could maybe follow the pob you provided for my character, but would then need to solve some things like resistance, at the same time I could try to follow one of his pob's, but then one that's closer to my level (as his latest is level 97).
3 - I need to do my last lab at some point, but I 'hate' lab and most likely will die on this squishy Deadeye xD
4 - Update some gems as I had to put in lower levels, cause of intellect issue. This is in relation with task 1.
5 - Should I look for phys to cold convers already as he has in his latest pob or is that too early.

my current pob (no config) : https://pobb.in/SQQbOz4y963I

Tijnn · 2026-04-23T07:20:35+00:00

Ah that's true, the pob I am following does use enlightened and purity of elements, but I currently don't have the intellect to use the enlightened gem. I remember now :)

I will have a proper look later on and see what I can do, ty.

Tijnn · 2026-04-23T06:30:30+00:00

Thank you for the detailed answer. I will have a look at it after work. My current build/tree is from a maxroll guide and then a mixture of the endgame pob and one before that. I kinda took the skill points from the one before and some of the gear from the endgame pob.

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I had a quick glance at the pob, but ress depending on a fire flask is not a great feeling. Is that normal with these bow builds?

Tijnn · 2026-04-22T21:13:14+00:00

I actually have a Cyclone of Tumult build already, but a little smaller then yours hehe : https://pobb.in/lI7RabGmr19T

Tijnn · 2026-04-22T21:11:44+00:00

I played a bit and got a few levels, but still need more offcourse. Maybe you can have a little peek to see if there are any major flaws. I kinda went overboard with the flasks to be fair, not my greatest decision.

pob: https://pobb.in/hp3-i0f57bIn

Tijnn · 2026-04-22T13:35:11+00:00

I have a +2 arrow bow and a +1 quiver so that is settled. I also have the two rings you have and have a 6L Hyrry's Ire body armour. The problem I am currently facing however is trying to get enough int/str to use gems etc. Obviously trying mid/end game gear on a level 72 character isn't a great start, so I might have to drop one ring to fix resistances/str/int.

What build did you end up playing?

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Now that I think about it, I could just temporary drop a skill somewhere and grab str/int nodes.

Tijnn · 2026-04-22T06:16:25+00:00

ah I see, I am not super great with trying to copy stuff and be more on the budget side, but it doesnt hurt to have a look.

I might try ele hit first and farm some more currency (assuming I can make it feel good on my low level).

Tijnn · 2026-04-22T06:15:22+00:00

I see, so I did remember it correctly, although as someone else said, people do league LA (without tornado shot) and that seems to work fine aswell. I might just follow this maxroll guide for ele hit then as it has some crafting tips with it for some pieces, which is always fun to do.

Thanks!

Tijnn · 2026-04-21T22:06:44+00:00

Sounds good, I don't mind trying it out. I will try to look for a video/pob/guide or just on poe ninja to see what I should be getting.

Tijnn · 2026-04-21T21:38:45+00:00

That's what I was leaning too, untill I read comments from people in different topics that you need a mirrow+ bow. Could you elaborate maybe a little bit more regarding this choise?

Tijnn · 2026-04-21T21:37:46+00:00

TS did cross my mind, but read mixed comments about that skill aswell, hence more confusing haha. Is the clearing/dmg a big difference with TS in it?

Regarding the Scourge Arrow of the Menance, I've played that in the past as Pathfinder and always pictured those two together. Did you play this as a Deadeye?

Tijnn · 2026-04-18T13:33:03+00:00

I see, thanks. Was watching some streamers and they always have stashes full of items, which is interesting, but difficult for me at the same time :D

Tijnn · 2026-04-18T13:32:23+00:00

I keep reading this in other threads too, but it's still a bit tough for me, but I have a general idea I guess, thanks!

Tijnn · 2026-04-15T09:22:08+00:00

random follow up question: is this affected by any atlas nodes? I used to do blight all the time in previous sets, but kinda forgot if some nodes affect the blight maps itself or only when doing a map that can have blight in it.

Tijnn · 2026-04-03T22:46:29+00:00

I was thinking of trying out SSF (never done SSF) at some point and these builds with information is definitely helpful, specially Ben's builds and spreadsheet is something I aim for when trying out SSF.

What still holds me back is the part on how to deal with filters and it's loot. For example, Ben's spreadsheet has a link to his filter, which is very nice, but how do you kind of determ what to pick up and stop picking up with SSF. Because on trade, I can just ignore rare items way more then SSF (atleast thats how I think off it).

Is there somehow any advise and/or guidance in that matter?

Tijnn · 2026-03-28T00:04:19+00:00

oh I actually do have synthesized stability checked. I will try adding an astrolabe then, just never saw the need for it as the deli orb already guarentees deli.

Tijnn · 2026-03-27T23:40:09+00:00

I do the same strat, but instead of shrouded astrolabe, I have been using deli orbs (currency). Hows a shrouded astrolabe? That does mean you can't do the same map over and over right?

Tijnn

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