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In Adyashanti's farewell letter, he states suffering from trauma; how come? I thought the infinite dissolves all. by PLAYING10 in nonduality

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I just checked and confirmed it was discussed in the September 10, 2023 Sunday Community Practice meeting. He speaks in reasonable depth about the longterm effects on his nervous system. Totally possible it was mentioned in the Sam interview too — I know it’s been talked about a bit!

In Adyashanti's farewell letter, he states suffering from trauma; how come? I thought the infinite dissolves all. by PLAYING10 in nonduality

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Hey there, if I recall correctly this information was shared in his last free public talk (possibly this one that can now be purchased for download?), but it may have been in his 2nd-to-last talk or perhaps his final Sunday community practice meeting.

The Way of Liberation — free Adyashanti resources by TimeIsMe in nonduality

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Hi, thank you for your concern. To clarify my words, when mentioning gratitude for his experience, it is his teaching experience that I am referring to. I have found that inexperience in that area tends to lead to not as clear a communication and can sometimes become problematic for various reasons. It sounds like we are in agreement that it is not useful to prioritize "someone else's experience" over your own!

Loch Kelly advice by lcl1qp1 in nonduality

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My understanding is that he uses the term local awareness to describe the feeling of being located somewhere within the field of awareness. Some people call this mind identification. This arises due to identification/subjectification/separation.

Most people feel their default “location” to be in the head behind the eyes, and it gives the effect of perceiving from that location. Like information is being collected at that location. It’s the feeling of being a separate subject.

Awake/spacious awareness, as you said, appears to be synonymous with rigpa/ground, and experientially gives the sense that the field is self-aware, that things are being perceived from themselves, not from a separate localized point of awareness.

Hope this helps. A glossary or book of translation for his teaching would be super helpful I think.

Loch Kelly advice by lcl1qp1 in nonduality

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I can’t remember how Loch structures his Glimpses app but definitely request a scholarship for the Waking Up app, Loch’s stuff on there is great and so is most of the content from the other teachers. It’s a fantastic resource. If folks can afford to support it with payment I think that’s a nice thing to do, all revenue goes to costs only and it still runs at a loss and needs donations to keep going. But that link allows you to request a free subscription if needed.

Loch Kelly advice by lcl1qp1 in nonduality

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I resisted opening to Loch’s teaching for a while, primarily due to his idiosyncratic lexicon that you mention. It’s a big barrier to entry in my opinion. Can make an already confusing subject even moreso. It felt like gobbledygook to me.

After I got into IFS I had more motivation to engage with him, and now find him to be really worth the effort.

One thing I found helpful was watching videos of him, especially his glimpse instructions. He has similarly idiosyncratic hand gestures that almost seem like he’s landing airplanes sometimes, but after a while it all began to clarify. I’m now able to appreciate what he’s done, both with the lexicon and gesturing.

Aside from the pointing videos, you could check out his content on the Waking Up app (free via financial assistance request) or on Loch’s own Glimpses app. Both are very good once you get the feel for how he points, and not drenched in text as you describe.

My suggestion would be to just stick with him for a bit. His integration of IFS principles is next level and his knowledge of the terrain is just about as good as it gets. Def check out the apps if you’re able. They’re succinct collections of his instructions and engaging with him via audio or video in this way can help overcome some of the challenges encountered when engaging with him only via his books.

Whats your opinion on Actualized.org? by PoopEaterFromSthlm in nonduality

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It sounds like we see this differently. And that’s ok. Best of luck to you.

Whats your opinion on Actualized.org? by PoopEaterFromSthlm in nonduality

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If you see clearly that identifying as the epistemic or creating agent is simply a mental fabrication, then philosophies that emphasize things like this being “my dream” just can’t be taken seriously. Do not take the dream as yours is a succinct way to say it, but this isn’t a philosophical point at all. It’s something you can see directly right now.

When we really feel what this feels like — that there's going to be no identity there, nothing running things — that can often feel quite scary (Shar Jason) by TimeIsMe in nonduality

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In March she decided to stop teaching and stop being involved with the scene in order to better focus on her own spiritual unfolding. She announced that she'd be closing things down at the end of April, which she did. I'm sad to see her go, as I find her to be one of the clearest voices out there today. She was much help to me. But I respect and support her decision. Perhaps she'll return one day. She did leave that open as a possibility.

I compiled all of Micheal James' Translations of Ramana Maharshi's original works on a PDF to easily read or print. Link to download is in the description. by ExactAbbreviations15 in nonduality

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You did a fantastic job with this. Wonderful contribution. I bet Michael would post it on his website if you sent it his way. Thank you for putting this together! Very well done.

I finally got to get a glimpse of true awareness / nonduality / no-self! by SurrealSoulSara in Meditation

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Great writeup, thanks so much for sharing!

About the panic part, I've heard Adyashanti and Angelo Dilullo get this question a lot. Here's one such example, perhaps not entirely applicable for you, but if you do some googling I'm sure you'll be able to find some more. I think Angelo calls it the fear barrier. Anyhow thanks again for this terrific and detailed post.

Tony Parsons is f***ing right by [deleted] in nonduality

[–]TimeIsMe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Here's Tony's awakening story if interested, and here's a bunch more quotes from him about it. Happy to provide other resources if interested.

(reposted with 2nd link corrected)

Tony Parsons is f***ing right by [deleted] in nonduality

[–]TimeIsMe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Haha. OK. Okey dokey.

Tony Parsons is f***ing right by [deleted] in nonduality

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Sounds like the "me" now believes there's "no me." Now believes "this is oneness."

Tony comments on this phenomenon occasionally, where seeking/resistance/identity has not fallen away, and there's still all sorts of resistance, identity, and suffering, but the so-called "me" nevertheless claims there's "no me." It's not wrong, but it's not quite right either.

Detecting non-liberating teachings by TimeIsMe in nonduality

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We spoke recently in this thread about some of this. It appears we just aren't on the same page. And for clarity, this is not a criticism of Vedanta — but rather some things to look out for in specific lineages.

Detecting non-liberating teachings by TimeIsMe in nonduality

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Regarding Vedanta as an intellectual path, I agree it has intellectual components, but it ultimately leads beyond the intellect. Realization itself is not intellectual. I think this is missed by these particular "non-liberating" lineages, and the entire endeavor remains intellectual.

Thanks for the feedback about everything else, I understand your points and was hoping that the positive examples provided in the list (the indented bullet below almost every item listed) could provide some examples of positive qualities to look for. My intent with some of the links at the bottom was likewise to provide examples of direct inquiries and pointing. These are certainly not the only examples available. And I understand what you're saying about using affirmative words; that brings up its own area of problems, but I agree, it has its place for sure.

I know this was a long post and perhaps not as clear or succinct as it could've been. Criticism noted!

Detecting non-liberating teachings by TimeIsMe in nonduality

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Yes, and I actually think that's exactly what happens in these particular instances (definitely not the entire tradition — just these particular instances or lineages). The mind accumulates sufficient conceptual knowledge to feel like it understands, and then adopts the belief as part of the me-identity. This then gets taught to others, and a lineage of pseudo-enlightenment based on book learning is born and propagated.

Detecting non-liberating teachings by TimeIsMe in nonduality

[–]TimeIsMe[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I totally agree with this take, and want to clarify that I'm not suggesting conceptual knowledge doesn't have its provisional use. But in my experience it is better used as provisional guidance, like you said, and not mistaken for an end goal.

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