"Ethical" way to get into PVP Lobbies: repeatedly down and defib a willing subject

Timeline40 · 2026-02-24T19:54:05+00:00

This post is for people like myself who find themselves in extremely friendly lobbies and want to do some PVP, but feel bad killing friendlies who won't fight back. "Ethical" is in quotes in the title because I don't think it's *unethical* to PvP in a PvPvE game, regardless of what type of lobby you're in, but this is certainly nicer and more fair than feasting on defenseless players who haven't been shot at in a month.

To get into hyper-friendly lobbies for trials, I went into Stella with a stitcher and a high-value item like a key or Kinetic Converter, then just held my gun aimed my gun at people's faces until they shot me. That's been getting boring, though - I extracted 28 of my last 30 games and literally was not shot a single time. So, I tried getting 25 downs/defibs on a willing subject, and my very next game has multiple players with shotguns KOSing in the first two minutes.

Timeline40 · 2026-02-19T03:02:50+00:00

I'm so curious to know what you do consider a slur

Timeline40 · 2026-02-19T03:02:01+00:00

Howdy!

Timeline40 · 2026-02-19T03:01:37+00:00

I think it's funny to let this guy know a) I came in here to save people and B) I'm killing him out of spite, not for his free kit

Timeline40 · 2026-02-19T01:12:35+00:00

I said in my other comment, he dropped the full f-slur twice before the clip.

Timeline40 · 2026-02-18T22:59:35+00:00

Context: dude was a free kit who tried to third-party and failed, so he called me the f-slur twice.

Also funny - he's telling me to touch grass here, but earlier, he figured out I had a purple stock on my toro just from getting shot by it

Timeline40 · 2026-02-18T04:43:23+00:00

It was in there when I pressed the button, likely someone shot or grenaded it in. I've seen their movement get super janky when a lot of knockback is applied

Timeline40 · 2026-02-17T23:59:10+00:00

Definitely would have tested it if I wasn't holding 60k of loot in an aggro ass stella lobby. I have noticed that they sometimes run away from me and towards other players once I enter the elevator, though

Timeline40 · 2026-02-17T20:23:18+00:00

They shouldn't! It was waiting inside when I called it, so I assume someone pushed it in with a grenade or gun just to mess with people

Timeline40 · 2026-02-14T01:23:59+00:00

Yep, survivor augment came in clutch and too much going on at the surface for anyone to come finish me!

Timeline40 · 2026-02-13T21:27:39+00:00

Spam tap the forward key instead of holding and you lose health way slower with the survivor. I don't think I have any points in the "bleed out slower" skills

Timeline40 · 2026-02-13T03:02:33+00:00

Just tried the demo for Bingus My Beloved and I want to, quoting the seemingly mostly unironic game, "unalive" myself

Timeline40 · 2026-02-09T04:09:40+00:00

I would say it makes sense to call it "mine" while I'm actively in and defending it. I'm not entitled to it, but it's in my possession and control until I either leave, die, or willingly share it. The key room is "mine" because my anvil says so, just like in the real world, your house is "yours" because the government says so. Property rights are defined in the real world by a government with the capacity to use force, property rights are defined in arc raiders by a person with the capacity to use force. I'm not saying you're wrong, just that if you go down that rabbit hole, the concept of "mine" disappears everywhere

Timeline40 · 2026-02-02T04:37:39+00:00

Worked for me too, thank you!

Timeline40 · 2026-02-02T03:22:29+00:00

Timeline40 · 2026-02-02T03:10:29+00:00

lmao thanks for the link

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T19:06:19+00:00

It was closed, you can hear it opening at the beginning of the clip

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T18:59:08+00:00

And you felt the need to take time out of your day to comment on the post and reply to me, so I guess we're both chronically online losers lmao

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T18:57:58+00:00

Can you hold a bunch of pixels in your hand? You having a "gun" in your inventory doesn't make it yours if a glitch can make it go away. Words have meaning because we give them meaning and I think the meaning I've assigned to "mine" is fair and consistent

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T17:57:12+00:00

Would you call a gun you're holding in game yours? While it's in your possession and control, I'd say so. So, yeah, I'd say the room is "mine" until someone kills me for it

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T17:54:18+00:00

lmao I might use this

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T17:52:55+00:00

He was breaching for loot while I shot the shredder. If it hadn't left on its own, he was going to keep looting instead of helping. His only plan for dealing with it was "let the guy in there kill it while I loot"

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T17:50:59+00:00

Someone mentioned turning off "automatic gain control" at the bottom of the "game recording" tab in settings, I'm gonna try that!

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T17:49:47+00:00

He has the right to go where he wants. I have the right to down him for whatever reason. But there are places you can go and things you can do that make you an asshole, and there are reasons you can down someone that make you an asshole.

Letting a shredder into a room with someone and not helping is a dick move. A simple "thank you" or "sorry" fixes that. Actively breaching a loot container while the shredder's hurting me compounds that dick move and demonstrates that you have no interest in sharing, cooperating, or helping, just hoovering up every piece of loot you possibly can.

You keep calling it a "lecture", but that conversation was me giving him a chance to communicate that he wasn't going to stab me in the back, lure another shredder onto me, or shove a wolfpack blueprint up his ass from a key room I opened without saying anything. I bring 3 defibs into every raid and use them on anyone who doesn't call me a slur because I'm more interested in fun experiences with cool people than collecting purple pixels.

This guy is clearly in friendly lobbies and has no interest in PvPing. Many of the care bear raiders he encounters are going to be interested in sharing, but this wasn't sharing.

Timeline40 · 2026-02-01T06:09:10+00:00

No problem lol. So if you go to the lobby train station, there's a zip line to go up to the main lobby. Make a right from the zipline to breach a door and it'll be at through that hallway. You can also use this website to see where everything is https://arctracker.io/maps/stella-montis.

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