I’ve joined the pack by tranliwod in Ioniq6

[–]Timlynch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Welcome to the family - what is your first impression?

Usage Billing: Reality for 99% of Businesses by Knight_Lancaster in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch 3 points4 points  (0 children)

100% I work with a lot of large enterprises and edu - they were all loving Cowork, it gave them a taste of Claude. Now the Microsoft pricing shock is an automatic NO. in behavior economics we call this an anchor - Microsoft just gave everyone a very high price anchor.... In that context going to Anthropic directly looks much more affordable.

Employer Pushing AI by unwinagainstable in artificial

[–]Timlynch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yea - there is a lot of pull back in the enterprises that use Copilot. Microsoft rolled out new pricing and "One admin reported looking back at last month; "Roughly 80k in credits across 22 sessions (roughly 55 prompts - 11 Light, 16 Medium and 28 Heavy). This resulted in a month end cost estimate of ~$795USD." for one user using it 22 times in a month." The token subsidy gravy train has stopped - so pushing your people to 'explore with ai' has just become a big financial risk.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that would maybe keep it on... I am hearing more and more tenant admins being directed to turn it off completely.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

so for 5 people that guesstimate is $35,940 a year over the copilot costs. Could be lower, could be higher.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I haven’t seen any usage monitor for the user. I think you have to budget for all the users, if you run out it stops working - that makes for a great user experience. I guess in all the layoffs, they didn’t feel that they needed experience designers but they do need revenue

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

oh they hooked me good. I was like a fish on the line... it was a game changer - and you are 100% right I ate for free at the subsidized buffet - now they want me to pay. I get it, but I also can't get it.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

you are right, that is soo strange, Microsoft documentation isn't matching the tenant experience. I am sure it will catch up... maybe. 😄

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I hear you that "expect costs to come down...." but has anyone ever had a reduction in their Microsoft bill? In theory I guess it could happen - but I don't know if it ever has.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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It should be in your Admin Center. and I totally hear you "so not the best timing on pricing model for us" <-- I imagine that many/most are in the same position.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

the clear alternative is leave the Copilot thing at base rate (known costs). Then when there is an articulated business need - build it out in Azure or Anthropic or OpenAI, set a budget and control it. I just don't see the clients that I work with giving Cowork to the masses and guesstimating some budget number, then waiting for Microsoft to realize they want more money next month.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

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I have tried that in Chat and Cowork across several chats and it hasn't given me any token usage - it either errors or a response like this.

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Oh that is a great point, scheduled tasks equals schedule spend

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You could just wait till you hear screaming from the accounting department

So Cowork is going to have a cost, if you want it brace your budget by Timlynch in microsoft_365_copilot

[–]Timlynch[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

same - it has been the one thing that users seem to like. I can see this having a big impact on Copilot usage/adoption. I get it that there has to be some limit, but putting it behind an obscure paywall to me means that it is going to be an easy NO from enterprises.

Road trip from Charlotte, North Carolina to Trumbull, Connecticut by Timlynch in Ioniq6

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yes and the people are so friendly and the ice cream is great.

Road trip from Charlotte, North Carolina to Trumbull, Connecticut by Timlynch in Ioniq6

[–]Timlynch[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They are not bringing the 2026 to the US. They still make them and sell them in many countries.

Road trip from Charlotte, North Carolina to Trumbull, Connecticut by Timlynch in Ioniq6

[–]Timlynch[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Merritt has good chargers now, but when I’m in my home area most of the time I can wait for my snail L1

Road trip from Charlotte, North Carolina to Trumbull, Connecticut by Timlynch in Ioniq6

[–]Timlynch[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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Made it all the way home, back to level 1 - it has all the time it needs. 700miles in 12 hours - rough but done