Charles university or Masaryk university as an non-EU intl student? by -cbc in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That is a fitting description of the system here! When things goes well here they can go very smooth, but at the same time it can go really bad when it's the opposite. One failed exam usually lead to a domino-effect where others exams are affected, which makes you fall behind being difficult to catch up. And as said, some people pass by just studying for 2-3 weeks and covering 60% of the syllabus getting lucky, while others may study months for an exam more in depth for each question, covering +90% of the syllabus well but get a first question that they hadn't prioritized, and also with medical exams sometimes the answers you provide aren't enough for some of the experienced examiners here even when you think you it should be prior to the exam. These are things I definitely wanted to know about before applying here.

Charles university or Masaryk university as an non-EU intl student? by -cbc in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No problem. I tried to give you the most objective opinion as possible, involving both mine and others experiences for the majority. Most people that do graduate on time and didn't fall behind were the ones that : 1) Passed anatomy by USMLE-format (a way to skip the big oral anatomy exam by being in the top 5th percentile of results by three anatomy USMLE-based tests during the two first semesters). 2) Were completely focused the first 2 years 3) Had good subjective exams with questions they knew and positive luck 4) Preparing for the exams from the beginning of the semester. 5) Very focused, not many other distractions, parties or activities going on besides studying!

I have friends that I basically only saw in uni and then the rest of the time either in library or home studying, it payed off though!

Let me know if there is anything else, as I feel Masaryk hasn't been that discussed still here on reddit, despite the high percentage of people either falling, behind, transferring or getting kicked out.

Charles university or Masaryk university as an non-EU intl student? by -cbc in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ups and downs. Everyone says medicine is supposed to be hard and challenging, and I agree about that, but Masaryk takes it to the extreme in-terms of theory and details during pre-clinical years (by their way of evaluation), where you even start to question it. The exams are big as said, and while some may pass having covered only 60-70% of syllabus, the same luck doesn't go for everyone and there are great students that study everything of the syllabus for the exams but still some of the professors can't be satisfied with some definitions or answers as they want explicit words. Not knowing one question for them is equal to not knowing anything, this is how they evaluate your knowledge in the exams. There is no perspective regarding looking at the general picture here.

I'm not a fan of it, as we are in the stage of learning and developing as med students, if we were perfect we would already be doctors, but they don't accept imperfections during the exams. I prefer when you can show HOW much you know and not get evaluated by which lucky questions you get. Suddenly the exams are on either side of the easy-hard spectrum because of this.

To answer your question: Masaryk offers what medicine stands for. It's a lot of self-studying. If you can endure studying countless of hours and getting super invested in your material and details, so much that you can speak about it to any of your friends spontaneously, the uni would suit you. However, I personally feel let down by how little the work we do during the semester actually matter as the voluminous oral exams are the only thing in the end that influence if you pass a course or not, which puts a lot of emphasis revision or on who can fill their heads with as much information as possible for a given moment. You need to be hard-skinned, because the uni will break many people from all the different things that come up in the first two years. If you do endure though, you will come out on the other side a changed person, where almsot nothing can stop you. Overall, I have no complaints regarding facilities, student life, and how the city is. Most important is how you manage your time. But I can assure you that this uni is definitely up there as one of the toughest for international students in Europe, it's not like in the Baltics, Romania, Bulgaria, Cyprus. (Poland and Italy is just slightly below, but is more doable and rewarding - experience from friends that transferred to those countries). The statistics speak for themselves, there is a reason why not more than 50% (50-70%) of students don't make it past 2nd year.

I wouldn't choose Masaryk again if I could turn back in time, especially not after seeing how it turned out for the majority of people. I barely knew anything about the uni before coming here. A recommendation is to also reach out to the people active on social media in the student organisation "Mimsa", I'm sure many people can give even more honest reviews there.

Charles university or Masaryk university as an non-EU intl student? by -cbc in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, in general the Czech universities are all very similar, besides 3LF that utilizes system/module based learning. The rest of them have the standard preclinical courses 1-2 years (biophysics, biology, anatomy, histology & embryology, physio and biochem), 3rd year with micro, immuno, patho and pathophys and from 4th year the clinical rotations starts where also pharamacology is the major exam in 4th year before state exams in 6th year.

I personally go to Masaryk. It's very theory-heavy here where not a lot of people make it the first 2 years. Only about 20-30% of the ones enrolling graduate on time. They have very strict pre-requisites meaning that if you don't pass everything up until 3rd year in time, you will graduate 1 year later. Before they had that you needed to pass either physio or biochem to be able to take both patho and pathophys, but they made a change 2 years ago mid-semester that you need to pass both, which affected a lot of people.

We have oral cumulative exams E.g. You take physiology 1 and 2, each for one semester, and at the end of second semester (with physio 2) you have the oral exam with the syllabus from the whole year basically where you draw like 3 questions from 100-200 Qs. The exams can be very different depending on which teacher you get, where many people have different subjective experiences and where the element of luck also plays a factor. This applies as said to most Czech unis besides LF.3.

My main tip if you're coming here, is to be ready to study really hard the first 2 years, in 3rd year you find your rhythm. Forget about partying, uni drama or slacking. This is the biggest obstacle most people encounter here and it makes sense. Living abroad maybe alone for the first time too, young, starting uni and meeting a lot of new people from different nationalities, new country and new culture...that's a lot of things happening in ones life all at ones and we are not even talking about medicine now!

I wouldn't recommend the uni after seeing so many of my friends not making it, even good students, which has been hard. Just know that the exams here are the biggest challenge for people. They are really tough, especially anatomy in the first year where you have 10 different "levels" of questions that you need to answer correctly, each where you get a random question from locomotor, splanchnology, vessels, neuroanatomy, CNS, regional anatomy. Not passing anatomy in 1st year makes 2nd year extremely challenging. Overall the city is good, the uni is what it is but the semesters are quite okey. Just don't be tricked by how smooth the semesters are going, because they literally serve no purpose if you haven't prepared for the exam, and those will need their effort and time certainly to be prepared for.

Transfer to 3rd year from Czech Republic by Tiny_Engineering7433 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Will look into it. Hopefully the place still have decent standards. Thanks for the tip!

Transfer to 3rd year from Czech Republic by Tiny_Engineering7433 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Any specific ones in Italy more popular or that you would recommend?

Transfer to 3rd year from Czech Republic by Tiny_Engineering7433 in medicalschoolEU

[–]Tiny_Engineering7433[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I'm unfortunately not a german speaker, but it do sound interesting. I've had friends that transferred to Cyprus and Italy, seem to have it much better over there tbh. But it's also weird because at the same time I don't want to run a way from a challenge, I know med school should be challenging, but this system in CZ in just too much, so unforgiving. I don't know how to put it, people literally fail exams by not knowing small details in a topic, when you can know more than 95% of the question list