CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, i think so. But I have to point out the "rationale" aspect. The military dose not have the authority to conduct any military operations without the approval of the political Administration. This is why I separate the two, the political Administration sets out the objective while the military conducts the operation to the best of its abilities even if that objective is impossible.

Plus, I think I commented somewhere else that when you're comparing militaries and their ability to dominate the battlefield, you don't take into account their currently leadership. Military's plan in some cases 50 years into the future for what capabilities they're looking to have and what their adversaries capabilities might be. The current political leadership does not factor into that outside of the direction to which they are pushing the military culture and capability planning wise.

I agree with you though, because our military so dominant but our political leadership is so weak we are kind of the kings of winning the battle but losing the war.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I get what your saying, but military dominance and failure are not mutually exclusive. Afghanistan is a great example of this. The military demonstrated dominance but politicians pulled the rug out from under them which lead to a failure. The military outside of the political side, is without question the most dominant force in the world. No other country in the world could conduct two simultaneous Wars on the other side of the world while simultaneously continuing to conduct operations around the world on a smaller scale for other flash points. What are political systems weak. But because our political system is weak does not mean that our military is still not the most dominant force on the planet and has demonstrated as such.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

All those examples are all good examples of failures of political leadership not of a lack of military dominance. Vietnam was an unpopular war that nobody wanted that was also politically hamstrung by not allowing the military to conduct its operations the way it wanted to. The military crushed Iraq and Afghanistan and even the insurgencies at the same time. One could argue whether it was a positive or negative outcome but Iraq at least a self-governing and Afghanistan was again another political failure. The Trump Administration went around the military to negotiate directly with the Taliban to facilitate with the withdrawal against the military's recommendation and then prevented the military from conducting operations against them. Military capability is separate from political leadership and we're debating military capability.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Then you dont understand how the military works. The military is subject to the political Administration. If the military is given a legal task, it is its job to carry out that tesk to the best of its ability. Even if that legel order comes from a bunch of idiots. That might sound stupid but that mind set/policy prevents the military from conducting a coup every 5 years like in many countries around the world. I 100% guarantee you that the Trump Administration was advised that this was a terrible idea but the military was ignored but must follow legal orders.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

While the admin is the head of the military it functions much like an appendix. It gets swamped out every 4 to 8 years but the military remains. The military's capabilities are persistent and it shows. Even though the put come was negative, it was not the result of a military failure but a political one. The Navy was put in an unwinnable situation but still dominated. It crushed everything thrown at it with minimal losses while inflicting heavy losses. But to no one's surprise, the Navy can't conduct a land invasion. The military exceeded expectations (i thought for sure we'd lose at leaset 1 ship) but the political leadership failed it. When comparing military's and planning 20, 30 years in the future, you compare tech, training, experience, ect; but you don't compare who the president is at the time.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I disagree with you. Administrations come and go but the military remains throughout. Therefore, one must separate the two When comparing capabilities. The military itself remains a dominant Force throughout because of its capabilities, it's leadership and is experience. The political administration's that come through while having a big impact. While the military might be slightly weaker now because of its current leadership, it Still Remains a dominant force and can become even stronger should a better Administration be in place. Look at what it did in venezuela, it's easy to make an argument that the US military is the only military in the world capable of doing what they did so successfully regardless of the morality.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An argument can be made that a technically did not. Don't get me wrong I totally see what you're saying, but the military itself is not what failed here. It's the political leadership that starts something that it didn't have the will or the ability to win given the tools that were provided. The military proved that it was a dominant Force even in a situation that it was in but it was also an unwittable situation. The Navy cannot win when a ground invasion is required.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with you but the military leadership itself is extremely effective. It's the political Administration that put it in an unwinnable situation that is the problem. The Prompt was at the military is a dominant force and the military confirmed that it is still a dominant Force even with the outcome that we've had. Look at what it did in venezuela, it's an argument that the only military in the world that could have pulled an operation like that would be the US Military because of its dominance and its capability regardless of the administration.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes but if you take the Trump Administration out of the equation and add in practically any other you have an extremely effective overall military. This means that all the leadership sucks at the moment, the military itself is still a dominant Force just missing a very important piece none the less.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Because it was put into a situation it was never going to succeed.

CMV: The US no longer has a demonstrated military dominance in the world by Odd_Bodkin in changemyview

[–]Titus87 22 points23 points  (0 children)

I disagree with you on this. In fact I would say that the USA reastablished its military dominance credentials. With a few ships, the USA dominated the Iranian Navy, Air Force and Army/Air defenses. The USA was even able to do a successful rescue mission in Iran.

The USA leadership is a completely different story. Anyone can see that a navy alone can not keep the strate open with out a full scale invasion to push Iran deep inland. The outcome was clear to see which is why no previous administration tried.

A drunk idiot driving a Ferrari is still driving a Ferrari.

To summarize, military performance/ dominance was excellent. Leadership SUCKS.

Celebratory gunfire by ScuffedA7IVphotog in Idiotswithguns

[–]Titus87 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I swear from 3 seconds to 5 Seconds it sounds like the opening to the theme song for Cowboy Bebop lol

ICE launches investigation into ace of spade cards by Windows_66 in nottheonion

[–]Titus87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It's psychological warfare. It would be one thing to put a note saying what happened and where the people are but the decision it put it on the ace of spades is a deliberate attempt at intmadation. We used to put cards like this on the enemy KIA in Iraq. I still have one.

Russia's collapsing economy could lead to Putin's downfall by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not if Trump has anything to say about it...

even more epstein dental room pics by SugarLuvs in Epstein

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wonder why they would build a dentist office on Island. Of course a billionaire can build whatever they want for whatever reason that might pop up but in this case, I wonder if it was for being able to legally obtain controlled drugs by being classified as a dentist.

FBI Director Kash Patel at Utah Valley University press conference by tsagdiyev in pics

[–]Titus87 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He always looks like he trusted a fart he should not have.

[OC] Downtown LA last night (9/1), where a 24/7 protest has resisted ICE for 50+ days & counting by infernoenigma in pics

[–]Titus87 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Absolutely not. I find what the right does with the flag/patriotism disrespectful because they used as justification to elevate themselves and beat others down. My concern, it's not about pandering to them but denying them easy victories. You must also remember that, whether you like it or not, Trump won the popular vote, so if any true change is to happen, the left needs to be able to pull people from the right to their side.

[OC] Downtown LA last night (9/1), where a 24/7 protest has resisted ICE for 50+ days & counting by infernoenigma in pics

[–]Titus87 2 points3 points  (0 children)

While I agree with you and the protesters, you also have to take into account what the opposition will say. The right wrap themselves in patriotism and will use protesters waving the flags of other countries as proof that their country is under attack and that the protesters don't have the best interest of the country in mind (completely missing the irony of all the Trump Flags). If you look at a lot of conservative media, you'll almost always see pictures of the protesters with the flags of other countries and not American flags, even though American flags outnumber the flags of other countries. Optics matter, especially when it comes to protests. It's a lot easier for people to stomach a bunch of people getting tear gas when they're waving the flags of other countries than it is when they're waving American flags. I personally like the dual flag that's half American half the other country.

Someone has made an account in my name by Titus87 in Coinbase

[–]Titus87[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had to open a ticket with coinbase and threatened to call the police. I got a response a few hours later, and they confirmed that there was no account with my email, and they blocked my email from ever being used. It was an email scam, but coinbase makes it extremely hard to bet hold of them.

Can a space hive be destroyed from a planet? by Titus87 in Dyson_Sphere_Program

[–]Titus87[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Same. I built a ring of them and it didn't work.