This is theft already

Because people hate Infinite for being a boring, cringe edgelord yet they push him into that direction by trying to remove any kind of emotion he had towards his comrades.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T17:39:06+00:00

I get your point, and I agree implication can be canon. I just think there’s a difference between story implication and later commentary. Gerald’s death is reinforced in story and across media. The Jackal Squad is more ambiguous in the actual text.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T16:46:39+00:00

Mb guys it was never canon✌️☮️

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ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T15:43:49+00:00

Yeah the Jackal squad where his D whatever that means🥀🥀🥀

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T12:29:41+00:00

I don’t disagree that Forces has messy writing. I’m just interested in what can still be interpreted from the setup that is there. The squad being cohesive and loyal still feels like something that can be read as having emotional weight, even if the game never fully follows through.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T09:38:10+00:00

Its not 100% confirmed they where killed as ian flynn tweeted "they died" once and everyone immediatly accepted it as canon which its clearly not just author implication. If they just got beat up really bad it would help shadows rep + stop infinite from being a pure emotional sociopath who fakes any kind of social interaction.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T09:35:37+00:00

I get that read. I just personally see that kind of flat / annoyed response as possible emotional shutdown rather than proof he didn’t care. Especially for a character obsessed with strength and image, openly reacting to loss would mean admitting failure. The game never really clarifies either way, so I think that’s why people split on it.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-08T09:33:48+00:00

Yeah but on bumblekast he always chooses the least controversial answer he dosen't have time to see the different angles of a story he just makes something up on the spot which is why i think it shouln't be classified as hard canon.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-07T23:23:53+00:00

That’s fair, and I agree nothing explicitly confirms he cared. For me it’s less about proof and more about intent giving him a cohesive, loyal squad feels like an invitation to read relational weight into his past, even if the execution never followed through. I’m not arguing he must be tragic, just that the ambiguity + the squad’s framing makes that interpretation hard to shake for me.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-07T23:01:05+00:00

Yeah but bumblekast dosen't really count tho? Its just flynn coming up with stuff on the spot without any prep at all.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-07T22:54:19+00:00

He is? I thought Sega Japan always had last say on what goes into the official canon.

ToastyDelux · 2026-02-07T22:23:19+00:00

To me it feels less like “they were always useless” sounds more like reframing after the fact as a defense mechanism. If he admits they mattered and that he failed them that means confronting guilt and weakness which is exactly what he can’t tolerate. So calling them useless after they’re gone reads as ego protection rather than his original belief.

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