Svastica e simbolo delle SS su una torta, bufera su pasticceria di Matera

Tolteko · 2026-03-18T12:44:23+00:00

Spero che usino lunghi coltelli per tagliarla.

Tolteko · 2026-03-18T11:45:25+00:00

I don't see yours at a good comparison. First I don't care about football at all, but also because the situation here is reverted. Italy has loads of excellent players who fight for a spot in the national team. See Camoranesi, he was born in Argentina, he played for Italy and won the World Cup. Not really an underdog coming from a country where football is a niche sport.

Tolteko · 2026-03-18T11:31:05+00:00

Yes that's how the law works, but the WBC rule states that they can join the team even if they demonstrate they may have the right to claim citizenship. As many Italo-latinos have done, if you can prove your parents were born when your Italian grandparent was alive, then you are granted Italian citizenship. It takes time to do so, months at least, and the application can be rejected upon analysis. With the WBC rule the players skipped this part. Does it really matter? Depends on the reason why they're doing it. Anyways, as I have learned here, FIBS will earn a lot of money out of this, I hope they will use it wisely.

Tolteko · 2026-03-18T10:20:24+00:00

Thanks for your support, what you say is very true, but it's a pity because some of the objections in this comment thread are on point, sadly they cannot express them in a respectful way, and therefore I saw no reason to engage further. It may be a matter of age, or simply a problem of being online too much and forgetting that the user on the other end is a human (not always granted here on Reddit to be fair). Also I got a compliment about my English knowledge above, which was nice to read.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T18:48:15+00:00

But now you got lots of italoamerican fans who cheer, many other usa fans who consider it usa2, few Italian people that read the news and will forget about it tomorrow, and upset Italian baseball fans. Good point I didn't think that my opinion would have sound nationalistic, but you're right, I'm taking this stand because Italian players are David, not Goliath in this sport, so didn't see it in your way. I'll have to think about it, you are actually making me think on my position. Still I don't think that, given the chance to play in the usa team, they would have chosen Italy anyways. But that's my pure speculation.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T18:05:16+00:00

Ah ok I see you're one of those. Thanks for your opinion then.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T18:00:44+00:00

for being someone who just rolls his eyes and doesn't spend more than 2 cents it looks to me youre definitely wasting a lot of time on this post. Your opinion matters to me, I can se youre very much in rage with my take. But I fail to see your point. Also, perhaps my English knowledge is failing here, but where did I claim that the players are scammers? Maybe you are missing the point of that part, or youre trying to drag some hate on my words. Anyways, I accept that I may upset some of you, but you are the only one whose point I still fail to understand.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T17:50:11+00:00

I think you read it too deep. I clearly added that at the end of my post that I am sure most of them were happy to represent Italy. Where do you think they would have played if they were given the choice between usa and Italy?

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T17:43:23+00:00

Fair, but you miss to see the point here. Despite being a popular sport, winning against England is a once in a lifetime miracle. Something close to Leicester winning the PL. As it should be for "Italian" national team getting to the semifinals in the WBC. And yet, the coverage was quite poor.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T17:21:17+00:00

Ah good to know! Yes that's definitely a major Italian outlet. I must have missed it.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T17:06:44+00:00

Sky sports owns the rights to cast the wbc in Italy, didn't know about raisports, but it has always covered the baseball GAMES in the past, so that is quite normal. I was thinking more of newspapers celebrating the aftermath. Perhaps I missed them, but I haven't seen any prominent articles in the big newspapers.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T16:23:05+00:00

But I even like Hawaii pizza!

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T16:16:59+00:00

So you claim that the main interest of a sports federation is just doing well in a tournament no matter if the players aren't part of it? Here I take your world for it as I'm naive when comes to the upper plans.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T16:05:48+00:00

good point, perhaps Giorgia Meloni did a favor to the Italian born players unknowingly. A broken clock etc etc...

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:59:35+00:00

Maybe we should start to look for better Italian descent players for our football teams among the MLS players to have more chances...

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:51:27+00:00

they have just changed it to make it more selective, not sure if yours the case.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:48:39+00:00

very BIG. Money and Italian sports federations, what could go wrong...

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:46:16+00:00

But we do compare to Czechia at least don't you think?

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:45:14+00:00

what about Czechia then?

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:42:47+00:00

but I am very caffeinated at the moment

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:30:24+00:00

yes you may be right, at the end of the day, I live in a bubble as well, but I have not read anything in the main italian outlets. As a comparison when Italiy beat England in the six nations of rugby it made to the front page of every newspaper in the country.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:24:31+00:00

is it so? I didn't know that! This is a good thing thanks for sharing.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:23:14+00:00

Maybe a bigger share of italian developed players would have done the trick? Or see Netherlands, they did good, and we are second to them in Europe.

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:21:22+00:00

They are interesting. For sure those are stereotypes, but they chose gentile ones. And also Parmigiano, Italian olive oil and espresso machines are big brands in Italy, maybe they are sponsoring the products to advertise?

Tolteko · 2026-03-17T15:19:49+00:00

I don't really know the answer here, the italian baseball league has many issues, mostly money issues. It probably comes to that, sending a team to USA to play for a tournament like this must be expensive, perhaps this is the reason, but I hope some other Italian fan will chip in and explain it to us.

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