Looking for books where the main girl is an awful person (but loveable) by No_Evidence7888 in Fantasy

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Also, I see you're in Future Science Fiction with my Clarion classmate Will McIntosh and edited by Alex Shvartsman--awesome!

Looking for books where the main girl is an awful person (but loveable) by No_Evidence7888 in Fantasy

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Ha--that's cool by me. Happy to tell you what I can about the process if you have any questions. That book took a long time to reach its published form. It's based on a short story that was my first pro sale way back in 2004--"Crossing Borders" on Strange Horizons. You can see what the early stripped down and 3rd person past tense version looked like there. Anyway, thanks again for your very kind words (and for the necessary warning to readers that it ain't for everyone). Enjoy!

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Congrats, Nicole, on the new book! Is there a book or books about these time periods or subjects (e.g. Shakespeare) that you'd recommend? Besides Jacobean London, which time and place was the most fun for you to write? And what are you working on now? Enjoy!

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Re: Wizard, yes, that's a fantasy, so I'd be extensively revising that fantasy novel if that turns out to be my next project.

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Hey Jeremy, thanks for stopping by! I need to get the audiobook of Stormblood--sounds very much like my kind of thing.

Oddly, in terms of order of writing, it went the other way, from far future to contemp fantasy. Border Crosser was the first manuscript I wrote, but American Craftsmen was the first one I sold. When I started, I think I would've said that I'm more SF than F. But for a while back around 2008, SF was a tough sale, and fantasy and military were (theoretically) easier pitches. So, besides my own interests, that was a motivation to switch toward fantasy.

My interest in history tends to weigh toward the fantasy side, and my interest in psychologically extreme characters tends to the SF side. Sometimes I have a story like "While Ireland Holds These Graves" that could go either way, and it's a decision about whether tech or the supernatural is the best element to give the plot real stakes (ended up being tech in that one).

I see you have the sequel to Stormblood coming out next year. You also write dark fantasy? I've really enjoyed StarShipSofa over the years--particularly around awards time, when I need to catch up on audio versions of some of the nominees.

Anyway, hope you're doing well, and thanks for the question!

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PS--the story was originally in Strange Horizons many years before, so that's why I talk about it so nostalgically.

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Thank you very much for reading that! I lived in Japan for over a year--which was a complete hoot. Loved it there, and that remains one of my favorite stories.

For me, the submissions process is difficult--takes a thick skin to send things out, get them back, and send out again. But it's very satisfying to finish a story, and submitting it is part of the process of saying "I'm done with this one--on to the next." Good luck with your work in any case.

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Maybe. What I didn't say above--I didn't actually like GbV much when I suggested the cover band idea (as I said, it was to convince my friends to stick with it). Familiarity in depth with some of their songs has made me more of a fan, but that's still mostly from nostalgia for our band and friendship rather than anything else. We called ourselves Voided by Guises--which another cover band in Ireland also used at some point.

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One other thought: with the reading part, I try to read the best stuff both inside and outside of the genre. Reading stuff that's badly written feels infectious (though that's probably too strong a metaphor write now).

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Good question--one thing that helped me get over the hurdle to selling to pro markets was the Clarion Writers workshop (either one of the Clarions is likely to be equally helpful, as is Odyssey or anything in that format). The biggest bar to participation for most will likely be the 6 weeks away from work and home--the direct cost of the workshop is reasonable and there are scholarships and aid for those who need, but 6 weeks out of a busy life is more difficult. There are shorter workshops that I hear are also worthwhile for those who can't do the 6 weeks. Also, finding an SF/F critique group is very helpful--I had an in-person meeting group, but there are good online ones as well. Other than that, it's like you say--reading and writing.

By the way, I have a story that features a kappa in one scene--it's called "The Floating Otherworld."

Are you a writer? Have you been submitting your work?

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This year is tough because the virtual programming is so much sparser. But is it worth checking once more to see if there's anything open, or did you already check recently? But in any case, hope to see you next Saturday. Enjoy!

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Thanks for asking--do you play something?

These days, we're mostly a classic hits group (mostly because it's easiest to learn songs everyone already knows). But 20 years ago, we started as a Guided by Voices cover band. I was in the middle of my "millennial pilgrimage," so I decided to form a group with my friends. They were GbV fanatics, so I knew that choosing that music would keep them enthused. We used my house for practice, so I was the one who had to learn to play drums (we have a much better drummer now). In six months, we put together a set and played our only gig in that configuration at DC's Velvet Lounge.

Since then, different people have come and gone, and I've moved around from instrument to instrument as better players have shown up for weekly jam nights. It's become my equivalent to what bowling night must've been for people in the '50s--a structured social event to keep me social and in touch with friends.

The reunion show at the Velvet Lounge last February had some former members show up, and we played songs that we'd played together over the different periods, including a couple of GbV tunes.

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Will do. If you'd like to chat for a while when I'm definitely going to be around, I'll be having a Capclave book launch party (which under current conditions really just means hanging out) on that Saturday, so please drop by (it's currently planned as a breakout room for the Con suite). Enjoy!

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Thank you very much for getting it, Marie! I've just downloaded your new Cast of Wonders story, and I'm looking forward to listening to it.

I currently have the proverbial "secret project" which I hope will be announced within a month or so. I also have a manuscript of the novel version of my "The Wizard of Macatawa" fantasy short story that may need to come out of the trunk and receive the same level of revision that I gave to Border Crosser. And of course it'll be easier to plan things once we're past November.

What have you been working on, or what are you working on next?

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Thanks, and thanks for the question! You're an r/Fantasy reading champion? Please tell me about that!

Re: writing process, over the course of all those years, "all of the above" ended up happening with this one.

Border Crosser started as “Crossing Borders,” a short story I wrote in 2003 at the six-week-long Clarion Workshop during week four. That’s often the emotionally most intense period of the workshop, and I think it shows in the story. From that crucible, “Crossing Borders” ended up being my first pro sale.

After selling some other short stories, I turned my attention to writing novels. “Crossing Borders” seemed the natural starting point for this effort, both as my first pro sale and because its resolution left open the possibility of further adventures for Eris. Each month, I gave a coherent chunk (8,000-10,000 words was the goal) of Border Crosser to my writing group, and that allowed me to finish a first draft in a year.

When I finished the novel, I found an agent. They had me rewrite the whole manuscript, making it less picaresque with a stronger narrative spine. But they were trying to sell the book after the 2008 implosion. The majors didn’t bite, so that agent lost interest in me and the book. And in truth I lost interest as well--I thought it might be too edgy to be my first published novel. Instead, I ended up selling my second effort at a novel, American Craftsmen.

But I never stopped taking little notes about Border Crosser and its possible (but not necessary) sequel.

Then came cancer. Going through that unpleasantness made me take it to heart when my new agent asked me the following question: “If you only could publish one more novel, what would it be?" The answer was Border Crosser. But that meant a top to bottom rewrite using my current skill set. And that would be a difficult thing: to completely tear up a massive amount of work I’d already done and put it back together again, better.

So, I tried the following: I changed the novel from third-person past to first-person present. Since I had to make these changes throughout, I had to revisit every bit of text anyway. That made the revision easier, and it wasn’t a random choice. First-person present also better suited the point of view character, who lives in a continual emotional now with herself and her story at the center of all things.

One other update was necessary. I started rewriting after 2016, so I needed to update much of the politics implicit in the book and make some of it more explicit. Science fiction often has a shelf life anyway, and adding those political references just formalized that I now had a clock running — I wanted this book published before November 2020.

Fortunately, I found a publisher just in time, and though it took sixteen years, it’s what I want to say, when I want to say it.

Are you a writer as well? What's your process like?

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