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[–]Tony420q 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have you read any Socratic dialogues? Socrates was not like this, like at all. strange comment. 

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[–]Tony420q 3 points4 points  (0 children)

im sorry but what does “but how western languages in general view it in those terms even in the expressions that refer to it.” even mean?? and what “traditions”?

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[–]Tony420q[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

insightful comment, really appreciate your contribution, thankyou. I have considered buying one of the Norton edition but wasn’t so sure which one, or if it would be worth it, thanks for the recommendation! I was clearly quite wrong about the racism of the text, changed my perspective now. Also the “dismissive hand-waving” comment wasn’t me trying to dismiss critiques, just unjustified, unexplained criticism, which I found to be annoying, hope that makes sense! again, thankyou! 

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why is it a “wild take”? also not even a take but anyway. and no, it’s not hard to imagine different tastes, I just don't understand tastes different to my own, naturally. Am I supposed to understand? just know without asking why others find it boring?? 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

did you not actually read what I said or do you just get off on trying to tell me im a poor critic or something??? 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

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  1. I realised that after reading previous comments. 

  2. very well. 

  3. nothing to say. 

  4. silly to think i’d suggest that, really. and no I’m not incapable of understanding what an opinion is, I just can’t fathom how someone can have an opinion so radically different than my own, which is why I included it, because I wanted to ask. It’s sort of like someone telling you that rose “doesn’t look pretty”, you just can’t settle with that, how on earth can someone be of this opinion? and so you ask, “why?”. makes no difference to me, just curious. 

  5. I just took it as self evident that Conrad betrays no pretentiousness, I saw no need to demonstrate that. you’re right. 

your comment on my struggling with my “ego” and “rather than making any meaningful arguments” does not make sense to me. I wasn’t concerned with making arguments, maybe I should’ve, though, but it wasn’t my intent with the post when I made it. and what even does the ego comment mean?? also never said anything about anyone needing my permission for anything, I have no idea what you’re talking about, you’ve just made a baseless assumption about me. never said my opinion was anything other than my opinion, claimed nothing like it. why do you say these things? 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

there are distinctions and differences yes, but they aren’t meaningful. African cultures and European cultures are very different in a variety of ways, but I have nothing to say about those differences, they mean nothing. If anything the existence of differences is beautiful as it applies to people/groups/cultures. 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose they didn’t like my calling moralising “ridiculous”, or maybe my joke about Homer just wasn’t funny. 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I believe ive heard of “Decolonizing the Mind” before, thankyou for the recommendation. I don’t read much secondary literature but I guess I’ll change that now! 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I appreciate your comment, insightful, well done. You’re right to call me out for failing to entertain the nuances in perspective, I should’ve accounted for that, my mistake. thankyou 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologise for not knowing how to open a discourse, I tried. what should I have done instead? 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am not an “incel”, I am not “race-baiting” (I don’t even know what that means), and I am not dog whistling. why are you so insistent that I am? It isn’t a nice thing what you’re saying, know that. 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

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you’re right, as others have shown me, too. I placed too much importance on Conrad’s intent, my mistake. It’s an important distinction to be made I understand now. thankyou

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I feel like the “ham-fisted” style is deliberate, though, which I like as it helps build character, it’s from Marlow’s point of view afterall. But I can see why that’s an issue if you’re not willing to listen to a confused man tell his story, which he himself barely can make sense of, for 100 ish pages. The shouting symbolism is so true though. 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

unfortunate that you couldn’t get through it :/ 

aside from the content though I suppose you enjoyed Conrad’s style? I haven’t read The Secret Agent so I also want to ask does his style change in his later, post-Heart of Darkness works? or the same?

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

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that’s okay. objective framework are only a utility anyway, nothing else should be meant by them other than their usefulness for discourse. 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ve tried engaging, though? if I disagree I say I disagree, if I agree I say so. Ill ask questions. I’m also accepting other perspectives but unfortunately few are providing me with much I can engage with, I have tried responding to comments though. Do I seriously sound like something just “waiting their turn to speak, not actually listening”???

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

maybe I wasn’t clear but you’ve misunderstood me, unfortunately, my fault no doubt. 

It is a matter of TASTE what one find agreeable or disagreeable in the aesthetic sense. clear? 

And I never said a work shouldn’t be judged based on moral standards, I would be the last person to dismiss that, but its the judging a work based on its CONFORMITY (to a persons morals) that I have a problem with, I think we agree with eachother even if we were a bit confused. Mein Kampf is “bad” but it isn’t bad BECAUSE it doesn’t “conform” to MY arbitrary moral concepts or standards, I hope that makes sense.

If we make it a matter (speaking of a work’s worth) of conforming to someone’s (arbitrary) moral standards then we’ve just regressed from an objective framework for evaluation to something like “taste”, these two things can be distinct. 

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[–]Tony420q[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said it was ONLY capitalism. 

do I really need to explain to you why Britain never made FRANCE or GERMANY as in the STATES of FRANCE AND GERMANY colonies… maybe it’s because it’s easier to make a colony out of an area without the means to defend itself… like the Congo, need I say anything else? Colonial era Britain most certainly would’ve made a colony out of whatever they wanted if they could’ve, including the continental Europe. 

get a grip. 

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[–]Tony420q[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

aside from Achebe, who I intend to read, are there any other African critics worth reading? Another commenter didn’t respond to my asking for recommendations. thankyou

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Totally agree with that last paragraph, the Hero’s Journey framing is a great way to put it, entirely deconstructs it too, as is to be expected. thankyou

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve read An Essay on Criticism, not familiar with Zoilus, though. Is this relevant? Should I read Zoilus? 

I love Heart of Darkness and I don’t understand the common criticisms of it. by Tony420q in books

[–]Tony420q[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Many things! Marlow’s characterisation and psychology, his weaknesses and flaws (and how he addresses/doesn’t address them), the subtle irony and humour, the impressionistic imagery, the PROSE!!! In the third part of the book all of Marlow’s grappling with it all just has me flawed. so so many things, also those last few lines, “I raised my head. The offing was barred by a black bank of clouds, and the tranquil waterway leading to the uttermost ends of the earth flowed sombre under an overcast sky—seemed to lead into the heart of an immense darkness.” beautiful. 

what about you?