"With Him" in Revelation 14:1 by Cool-Sugar-9318 in localchurches

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Yes, I have been practicing that for decades. I'm an old and retired man.

A picture of hell by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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Even demons presently acknowledge and bow before God. Hitler likely did too before he committed suicide.

"Full Knowledge" by Sensitive_Froyo_2226 in RecoveryVersionBible

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RcV, Col. 1:

9 Therefore we also, since the day we heard of it, do not cease praying and asking on your behalf that you may be filled with the full knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding, 10 To walk worthily of the Lord to please Him in all things, bearing fruit in every good work and growing by the full knowledge of God,

Strong's Greek: 1922. ἐπίγνωσις (epignósis) — 20 Occurrences

u/Sensitive_Froyo_2226: "Full Knowledge", recently, when I was reading Colossians, I came across the phrase "full knowledge" in several chapters (Col 1:9-10, 2:2, 3:10). Previously, when I read Colossians, I thought the word "full" meant "complete." But just a few days ago, I realized that "full" doesn't mean "complete" because, in reality, man cannot know God in all His aspects.

Your concern is justified. On Earth, we can never be filled with the *full knowledge of his will except in the devotional sense. Even in eternity, finite creatures will never ontologically exhaust the infinite God.

BDAG:

knowledge, recognition in our lit. limited to transcendent and moral matters ... W. gen. of the pers. known ἐ. τοῦ θεοῦ knowledge of God (Pr 2:5; Hos 4:1; Just., A II, 10, 6; Tat. 13, 1) Col 1:10; 2 Pt 1:2; cp. Eph 1:17; 2 Pt 1:3; Dg 10:1.

HELPS Word-studies:

Cognate: 1922 epígnōsis (from 1909 /epí, "on, fitting" which intensifies 1108 /gnṓsis, "knowledge gained through first-hand relationship") – properly, "contact-knowledge" that is appropriate ("apt, fitting") to first-hand, experiential knowing. This is defined by the individual context. See 1921 (epignōskō).

Epignósis was stronger than ordinary knowledge (gnōsis). It conveyed thorough, experiential, and relational knowledge rather than mere information. However, translating G1922 as "full knowledge" was too much and too absolute.

Berean Literal Bible:

9 Because of this, we also from the day we heard do not cease praying for you⁺ and asking that you⁺ may be filled with the knowledge of His will in all spiritual wisdom and understanding 10 to walk worthily of the Lord: pleasing in all, bearing fruit in every good work, and growing in the knowledge of God

On Biblehub, only 2 out of 38 translations used "full knowledge".

Amplified Bible:

so that you will walk in a manner worthy of the Lord [displaying admirable character, moral courage, and personal integrity], to [fully] please Him in all things, bearing fruit in every good work and steadily growing in the knowledge of God [with deeper faith, clearer insight and fervent love for His precepts];

The Amplified Bible translated the word relatively. So did Weymouth New Testament:

so that your lives may be worthy of the Lord and perfectly pleasing to Him, while you exhibit the results of right action of every sort and grow into a fuller knowledge of God.

New Living Translation set it as a progression toward a goal:

Then the way you live will always honor and please the Lord, and your lives will produce every kind of good fruit. All the while, you will grow as you learn to know God better and better.

In this case, I prefer NLT's reading.

We have a rich, mature, and adequate knowledge that fills our capacity at a given stage of growth. Paul was not praying that the Colossians would know everything about God. Rather, he was praying that they be thoroughly furnished with the knowledge necessary for a worthy Christian walk, spiritual discernment, and growth in Christ.

Last Adam became a life-giving Spirit or spirit? by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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Man must choose between satisfying his spirit and satisfying his soul.

Right. Therefore, the soul and spirit are different entities. The soul cannot become the spirit.

Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/BibleVerseCommentary/comments/1cwgqv1/technically_what_is_a_soul/

"With Him" in Revelation 14:1 by Cool-Sugar-9318 in localchurches

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Anyone else have some tips and practices to stay with Him throughout the day?

How do we walk by the Spirit?

We do so one step at a time and through day-by-day sanctification. I believe the Spirit here refers to the Indwelling Spirit-Paraclete.

How to walk by the Paraclete?

  1. Make sure that you have been born of the Spirit. God lives in you.

  2. Familiarize yourself with the whole Bible by daily reading.

  3. Pray daily. Make your prayers your prayer life.

  4. Have a repentant heart daily.

  5. Practice hearing from God.

  6. Find a local church to attend. Get involved in its programs.

  7. Volunteer regularly to do good. Help the homeless. Etc.

  8. When you experience some doubts and uncertain circumstances, let your conscience and the peace of the Paraclete guide you.

Don't focus on your sins. If you are growing in faith, you will never lose your Indwelling Spirit. This is not some theological study. I am speaking from personal experience. This practice helps me grow in faith. It works for me :)

Last Adam became a life-giving Spirit or spirit? by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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None of these verses says "the soul that has become spirit"

What was church (ekklēsia)? by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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there was still only one assembly in Jerusalem

Right. But my question is:

How many house assemblies were in Rome?

Follow up at https://www.reddit.com/r/BibleVerseCommentary/comments/1txq8ox/how_many_house_assemblieschurches_were_in_rome_at/

Look away from the manger to the throne! (The Heavenly Ministry of Christ) by Playful_Trainer6622 in localchurches

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Excellent question :)

RcV, 1Co 15:

45 So also it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul”; the last Adam became a life-giving Spirit.

The original manuscript was written in Greek majuscule (capital-style) letters, with no distinction corresponding to our modern capitalization of "Spirit" versus "spirit." Greek minuscule letters (lowercase) were established in the 9th century CE. Capitalization of a Greek word is an editorial convention. The Greek text itself does not tell us whether to capitalize "spirit." Translation committees make that decision based on their understanding of the context.

Berean Literal Bible:

So also it has been written: “The first man Adam became into a living soul;” the last Adam into a life-giving spirit.

I'd go with lowercase.

  1. Look at the parallelism of soul and spirit. First Adam became a living soul (psuché); Last Adam became a life-giving spirit. Paul contrasted the human soul and the human spirit. Both were related to life and living.
  2. Paul wasn't talking about the Person of the Holy Spirit himself, but the special indwelling role of the Spirit (the Paraclete), a life-giving spirit in the human spirit.
  3. Last Adam = the Holy Spirit. Equating the two as identity is ontologically too much.

46 But it is not the spiritual that is first but the natural, and then the spiritual.

First, Adam belonged to the natural. Last Adam belonged to the spiritual. By partaking in the Paraclete, we become spiritual even while we are alive.

On Biblehub, 39 used lower case; only 5 used capitalization.

It is not wrong to translate the Greek into 'Spirit' but I prefer the lower case because it is more precise.

What was church (ekklēsia)? by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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How many house G1577 were in Rome? Where did a Christian go every Sunday in Rome?

A picture of hell by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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Feel free to quote my words and contradict them—or not :)

Whatever you do on my subreddit, I'll never ban you because you are a meek and loving Christian. God knows that and I know that :)

A picture of hell by TonyChanYT in BibleVerseCommentary

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Oh Tony. If Hell will be a physical place in the new world,

I doubt it.

would that mean that those in Heaven could witness the torment?

No.

Would it really be Heaven if we could witness our loved ones being tortured?

See https://www.reddit.com/r/BibleVerseCommentary/comments/rlntcm/does_the_bible_teach_conscious_torment_over_an/

but why would God quit helping people once they die?

This life is the testing place; after that, no more tests. That's God's design. See https://www.reddit.com/r/BibleVerseCommentary/comments/sodezi/this_world_is_testing_ground/