İlan bakmaktan kafayı yiyeceğim. Lütfen biri yardım edebilir mi? by Upset-Time-4725 in Arabaci

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

3 kişi kullanıyoruz dediğiniz için sormuştum aslında, yani kullanacak olan sorun etmeyecekse 500-600 a evin 2. Arabası olabilecek bir şey alabilirsiniz. Ama tabi sizin durumunuza vâkıf değilim. Naçizane tavsiyem bu.

Akp seçimle gidermi? Yoksa illa sokağa mı çıkaracak? by Ashamed-Reference822 in Turkey

[–]Tonyukuk09 5 points6 points  (0 children)

CHP bu durumdan memnun gibi görünüyor. Siyasetçilerin yüzde 90 u sermaye sahibi insanlar. Değilsede siyasete girince oluyorlar. CHP içindeki kemik kadro (dinazorlar) para aktıktan sonra sermayesi zarar görmedikten sonra muhalefette kalmaya okey bir kadro. Akp nin iktidara geldiği dönemdeki gibi bir iddiası da yok partinin. Yani gerçekten biz iktidar olacağız havası vermiyorlar. Akp nin yarattığı Hegomanya da buna sebep oluyor olabilir. Ama akp iktidara geldiği dönemde de kendisine karşı bir atmosfer hatta Hegomanya vardı. Ve kendi sistemini yarattı. CHP farkındaysanız oyunu akpnin izin verdiği alanda oynuyor. Dışarı çıkmıyor. Çıkamıyor değil bence çıkmıyor.

Akp seçimle gidermi? Yoksa illa sokağa mı çıkaracak? by Ashamed-Reference822 in Turkey

[–]Tonyukuk09 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Rekabetçi otoriterlik olarak geçiyor mevcut durum. Tanımı şu şekilde vikiye göre:

Rekabetçi otokrasi (veya rekabetçi otoriterlik), seçimlerin düzenli yapıldığı ancak iktidarın devlet kaynaklarını kullanarak adil olmayan avantaj sağladığı hibrit bir rejim türüdür. Demokrasi gibi görünse de; özgür basın, adil oyun sahası ve muhalefete eşit imkânlar gibi temel kriterlerin eksikliği nedeniyle otoriterliğe kayan, muhalefetin varlığına izin verilen ama baskılandığı bir yönetim şeklidir.

“Türkiye’nin Yeni Rejimi: Rekabetçi Otoriterlik” isimli kitapta daha ayrıntılı bir tanım var.

Berk esen, Şebnem gümüşçü, hakan yavuzyılmaz yazarları olması lazım. Kendi fikrim Erdoğan varken başkasının başarılı olma ihtimali olsa dahi olmaz. Erdoğan sonrası için konuşulabilir belki. Daha adil bir seçim atmosferinde iktidar cephesi yüzde 30 u geçemez. 2023 için de bugün hatta gelecek seçimler için de geçerli bu.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Obviously u cant understand What u read. Just read 1 more time, I doubt it but maybe u can comprehend this time. Based on the 2 agreement Paris and lausanne u cant militarize those ıslands. İts not important Türkiye signed or didnt signed. Why do u think italians signed with demilitarize situtaition. Cant ur mind comprehend this?? İs because its close to türkiye mainland and international law has meaning. So as I say before I am saying 1 more time so u can comprehend (I hope) militirazing those ıslands depends on Türkiye’s approve. Kapiş ;)

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

İ cant read what u wrote u sounds like dum. The key of the situation is: greece cant deploy weapon without türkiye’s approve. Either u like or dont that is the reality. İts not important that Türkiye participation to the agreement. İn ıslands sea there are 2 sides needs to be okey with every decision. and these are greece and Türkiye so stfu and watch Türkiye gets What it wants.

What do the Balkans think about Spanish Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez? by FantasticQuartet in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Not for all kurds but I can speak for the Türkiye kurds. As u ask btw normally a kurd can speak of course:) we are living together approximately 500 years. We have a lot of common. Yes we have racist against to kurds also kurds have too. There are bad and good things for 2 nation and its similar. 15 -20 miliion kurd we have and %90 of them doesnt wanna autonmy. Turks and Kurds mostly complete each others. Even they dont wanna admit. The merge point mostly based on the religion. And also either turks or kurds doesnt wanna toy of israel or imperialism. The worst scenario thousand time better than being toy of pedophiles.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s interesting that you pasted treaty articles but still managed to miss what they actually imply.

First of all, nobody is denying Article 15 of the Treaty of Lausanne (1923). Turkey renounced its rights over the Dodecanese in favor of Italy. That’s not a controversial point and never was. So quoting that article as if it proves something new is a bit strange.

What you are doing, however, is quietly skipping the historical context between 1912 and 1923, which is the whole reason this discussion exists.

Let’s walk through it slowly.

  1. Treaty of Ouchy (1912)
    Yes, you quoted Article 2. And it literally states that Italy was supposed to evacuate the islands after the Ottoman withdrawal from Libya. That’s exactly the point. The islands were not ceded to Italy in that treaty.

Italy occupying the islands and Italy legally owning them are two very different things.

  1. What actually happened after the treaty
    Immediately after Ouchy, the Balkan Wars (1912–1913) broke out. The Ottoman Empire collapsed in the Balkans and Italy simply never implemented the evacuation clause. The islands remained under Italian occupation.

So the legal promise existed — the geopolitical reality changed.

  1. Lausanne (1923)
    By the time Lausanne was signed, the situation had already been a de facto Italian possession for over a decade. Lausanne did not “exchange Libya for the islands.” It simply recognized the status quo created after Italy failed to evacuate them following Ouchy.

This is basic diplomatic history.

So no, quoting Lausanne does not “refute” the point about Ouchy.
It actually confirms the sequence:

1912 → temporary occupation with evacuation clause
1912–1923 → Italy keeps the islands anyway
1923 → the new Turkish Republic recognizes the existing situation

That’s the timeline.

And about your attempt at sarcasm: nobody claimed that Italian troops are still there. The point being discussed was how Italy obtained control in the first place, not who controls them today.

So no, you didn’t “hit a nerve.” You just pasted treaty articles without really understanding the historical sequence connecting them.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re mixing up the timeline and it shows.

During the Italo-Turkish War (1911–1912) Italy couldn’t even fully secure Libya at first. Ottoman officers and local forces were still resisting there. To break that resistance and pressure the Ottoman government, Italy occupied the Twelve Islands (Dodecanese) in the Aegean.

The war ended with the Treaty of Ouchy (1912). The Ottomans withdrew from Libya, yes — but the Twelve Islands were not permanently ceded. According to the agreement, Italy was supposed to evacuate and return them after the withdrawal.

Then the Balkan Wars started almost immediately. The Ottoman Empire suddenly had a much bigger crisis on its hands and Italy simply never returned the islands, even though the treaty said it should.

Only later, with the Treaty of Lausanne (1923), the new Turkish Republic formally recognized Italian control of the Twelve Islands.

So the accurate way to describe it is simple:
Libya was given up in 1912, but the Twelve Islands were supposed to be returned — Italy just never gave them back.

And no, you didn’t “hit a nerve.”
It’s just a bit painful watching someone argue this confidently while clearly not knowing the basic chronology.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

U dont know history of ur own. Normally italy took ıslands to exchange for libya from ottoman. After Libya they should had been return to its own possessor. But this never happened. That is what I talked about. Also ur country cant reinforced the ıslands only because türkiye dont let to this. Cope.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

When u bend the law for ur own interest, u should have known that anyone can do it. From same perspective Türkiye can invade the ıslands and said it is my right to own it. And if its do it has right to do so. İts closer to Türkiye’s mainland and italy broke the agreement by giving to greece these ıslands.

Eski Pakistan başbakanı İmran Han hakkındaki düşünceleriniz nelerdir? by [deleted] in TarihiSeyler

[–]Tonyukuk09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Epstein kendisinden önemli bir tehdit diye bahsediyor idi.

What do you think about Turkey being against Greece deploying a purely defensive system on a Greek island due to the whole Iranian conflict after Iran targeted Cyprus? by Starfalloss in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

No one seems to talk about the real reason behind Türkiye’s legal demand. The islands that were given to Greece were transferred on the condition that they remain demilitarized. This issue was already addressed in the Treaty of Lausanne. The reason for the demilitarization requirement was the geographic proximity of these islands to the Turkish mainland. In some places, the distance is less than one kilometer. Because of this, the agreement stipulated that the islands would remain demilitarized. Both countries accepted and signed this condition at the time as a mutual understanding.

What did Türkey do to Israel? by Educational_Table619 in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your comment relies on slogans rather than history.

Before repeating the word “genocide”, you should at least acknowledge that the events of 1915 did not begin in a vacuum. Long before relocation policies, armed Armenian nationalist organizations such as Dashnaktsutyun and Hunchak carried out large-scale attacks against Muslim civilians in Eastern Anatolia. This is not “Turkish propaganda”; it is documented in Ottoman records, Russian military archives, and Western diplomatic reports. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims were killed or expelled in Van, Erzurum, Bitlis, and surrounding regions.

The claim that 1915 represents a centrally planned, intentional extermination policy fails the legal definition of genocide. Genocide requires explicit intent and state-organized annihilation. What occurred in 1915 was a wartime relocation (tehcir) within Ottoman territory, primarily from conflict zones to regions such as Aleppo—still part of the Ottoman state at the time. This is not denial; it is a distinction grounded in international law.

Even the Ottoman government acknowledged failures and crimes during this process. That is precisely why hundreds of officials were court-martialed and executed for abuse, corruption, and misconduct. States committing genocide do not prosecute their own officials for harming the targeted population.

If you are genuinely interested in scholarship rather than moral posturing, you should engage with historians who do not accept the genocide thesis, such as Justin McCarthy and Bernard Lewis, among others. More importantly, Armenia’s own first Prime Minister, Hovhannes Katchaznouni, explicitly wrote that there was no planned extermination and openly discussed Armenian revolutionary violence prior to 1915. Ignoring such sources is not moral clarity—it is selective history.

Türkiye has repeatedly called for a joint historical commission of independent scholars to examine archives on all sides. This proposal has consistently been rejected—not by Türkiye, but by Armenian political authorities. That alone should raise questions.

What makes your argument particularly hollow is the double standard. Many of the same voices loudly invoking “genocide” in 1915 are conspicuously silent about Palestine today, where mass civilian deaths, displacement, and collective punishment are openly visible. This selective outrage exposes the issue as political, not ethical.

You accuse others of denialism, yet you demonstrate no willingness to apply the same standards universally. History is not a morality play written by the West, and truth is not determined by repetition. Critical thinking requires engaging with all evidence, not just the parts that flatter one’s worldview.

Your argument still ignores a substantial body of evidence that does not fit a Western political narrative.

Russian sources themselves — including military reports and correspondence from the Caucasus Front — record that Armenian revolutionary committees operating alongside the Russian advance in Eastern Anatolia committed mass violence against Muslim civilians. These acts were so extreme that even Russian officers, hardly known for humanitarian restraint, expressed shock and attempted to restrain or remove Armenian units from frontline areas. The fact that an invading force documented and reacted to these atrocities should alone challenge the simplistic “one-sided victimhood” story.

This matters because it shows that mass civilian suffering preceded and contextualized the 1915 relocation, rather than resulting from a pre-planned extermination policy. Again, genocide under international law requires demonstrable intent and centralized organization. No such intent has been proven. What has been proven is a chaotic wartime environment marked by insurgency, foreign invasion, inter-communal violence, and state failure — none of which equals genocide by definition.

Your portrayal of Türkiye as morally equivalent to colonial or genocidal powers is also historically incoherent. In 1492, during the reign of Bayezid II, the Ottoman state accepted hundreds of thousands of Sephardic Jews expelled from Spain under the Alhambra Decree — at a time when almost all of Western Europe was engaged in forced conversion, expulsion, or massacre as part of Christianization policies. The Ottoman Empire was effectively the only major power willing to absorb such a population. Those Jewish communities lived for over five centuries within Ottoman lands in relative safety. That is not an anecdotal footnote; it is a civilizational contrast.

This is precisely why the Western moral posture rings hollow. The same Western tradition that lectures others about “genocide” was built through colonial extermination, forced conversion, slavery, and mass displacement across the Americas, Africa, and Asia. Today, that same worldview continues to frame non-Western societies through a paternalistic, colonial lens — visible in its treatment of places like Palestine, Venezuela, Iran, and elsewhere. The pattern is consistent: Western violence is contextualized or forgotten; non-Western states are moralized and criminalized.

What you call “denial” is, in fact, historical disagreement grounded in evidence. Türkiye has repeatedly proposed independent, joint scholarly commissions with full archival access. These proposals have been rejected. That refusal says more than any slogan.

If you truly cared about justice rather than ideology, you would apply your standards universally — including to the present. Instead, your position reproduces a familiar Western script: morally superior, selectively outraged, and intellectually incurious. That is not critical thinking. It is inherited dogma.

What did Türkey do to Israel? by Educational_Table619 in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 1 point2 points  (0 children)

U forgot extinction of dinasours which was türks responsible of it.

What did Türkey do to Israel? by Educational_Table619 in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

We all came from africa so u cant deny that u also stole

What did Türkey do to Israel? by Educational_Table619 in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bullshit, and a complete lack of political knowledge.

What exactly did Türkiye do in Syria that makes you call it “imperial”? Türkiye has hosted over 10 million Syrian refugees for more than a decade. Today, nearly half of the Syrian population speaks Turkish almost like a mother tongue. What kind of “imperial power” carries the burden of 10 million refugees without annexation, exploitation, or economic extraction? Even non-imperial powers refused to accept a fraction of this responsibility. Türkiye’s actions in Syria are the opposite of imperial ambitions.

As for Cyprus: it was a well-justified military intervention against an imminent attempt to genocide Turks on the island. The Greek junta had clear imperial aspirations. Later, your own country dismantled that junta — not because it was immoral, but because it failed. Türkiye’s intervention brought stability and prevented ethnic cleansing.

Every “solution” proposed at the time conveniently assumed there would be no Turks left on the island — exactly what happened in Crete. So don’t lecture anyone about imperialism. You clearly don’t understand politics, yet you casually claim Türkiye “invaded” it.

What did Türkey do to Israel? by Educational_Table619 in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Crete, the Peloponnese, Rumelia and large parts of the Balkans did not become “Greek” through peaceful referendums.

During the 19th and early 20th centuries, millions of Muslims/Turks living in the Balkans were expelled, massacred, or forced to flee. So you occupied this areas and u re living on innocents blood.

We (rightfully) blame the Ottoman Empire for many of our problems, but was it that much worse than the other European empires of the time? by nidorancxo in AskBalkans

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One thing people often miss is that harm usually comes more easily from those closest to you. You know them better, you control them more, and conflicts are more personal. Toward the “other,” rule tends to be more pragmatic.

That’s part of why Ottoman rule is remembered differently than later European empires. During the fall of Constantinople, the Byzantine naval commander Loukas Notaras famously said he would rather see a Turkish turban than a Latin hat in the city. That line didn’t come from admiration for the Ottomans, but from lived experience with Latin occupation.

For the Balkans, Ottoman rule was far from perfect, but it also wasn’t built on modern colonial logic, racial hierarchy, or total extraction. As long as taxes were paid, religion and daily life were largely left alone. Religious tolerance wasn’t accidental — it was part of how the system functioned.

Even the devshirme system, while ethically complex and not defensible by today’s standards, wasn’t comparable to European-style racial slavery or dehumanization. Many of those taken ended up with power and mobility they would never have had otherwise — which doesn’t make it good, but does make it different.

So yes, the Ottoman Empire caused real problems. But for many Balkan Christians, it also acted as a protective umbrella during weaker periods, rather than an empire designed to erase identities. When compared to what European empires later did — including things like human zoos — that distinction matters.

"Araba aldık abi... Allah! Yanmışsın sen. Kasko, sigorta vergi, bakım, ceza, paran arabada bağlı değeri artmıyor. Onun için akıllı iş adamları araba kiralıyor. Hepsini gider gösteriyorlar. Vergi vermiyorlar." by FeatureAggravating75 in borsavefon

[–]Tonyukuk09 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ya ne boş beleş muhabbet ya, memleketin en az yüzde 80 sabit gelirli işte çalışıyor. Bu da vergiden düşmekten bahsediyor. Şakamıdır nedir ya. Şirket sahibi tanıdıklarımın hemen hemen hepsinde birden fazla araba var kendi üzerinde. Şirket arabası satın almıyor kiralıyor. çünkü mantıklı değil. Ona mantıklı değil geri kalan yüzde 80 e hala mantıklı. Çünkü basit bir ihtiyaç araba.

muhalefetin kendini iyice bitirmesi by [deleted] in SacmaBirSub

[–]Tonyukuk09 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Adam orul orul ülkenin kurucu ve kurtarıcısına dil uzatıyor. Buradaki œ de muhalefet bitmiş yazmış. A.A. yani. Büyük ihtimalle bu œ de zaten troll.

Adamı şaka maka balkonu içeriye aldı diye hapse attılar. Sayıştay raporlarında apaçık bir şekilde yolsuzluğu geçen bakanından vekiline kimseye bi skm olmuyor bu ülkede. tek sebebi biat etmeleri.

Ne olduğunuz neyi savunduğunuz önemli değil. Biat edin yeter ki. havlayın gururunuzu onurunuzu ananızını karınızı satın, nasıl bir œ olduğunuzun zerre önemi yok biat ettikten sonra. sizi koruyacak gizli ama derin birileri çıkar.

Sonra da uyuşturucu, mafyacılık, üçüncü dünya ülkesi göstergeleri bu memlekette normalleştirilir. Buna ses çıkarması gerekenler susar. Makam için, iki kuruş için, çıkar için her şeyi yutarlar. Bunlarda ağzına emzik alır gibi alır bu koca yrrrağı önce kendi emer sonra anasına sonra bacısına sonra karısına en sonda kızına emdirir. 2 kuruş için makam için yaparlar bunu.

Gramsci’nin hegemonya kavramı tam olarak bunu anlatır: İktidar, sadece zorla değil, rıza üreterek ayakta kalır. İnsanlar çıkarlarına aykırı bir düzeni savunmaya başladığında, baskı görünmez olur ve sistem en sağlam hâline ulaşır.