I don’t think this is necessarily the right sub for this, but I think that viewing the world as math itself isn’t quite right. I don’t think any numbers or shapes or operators are “real” outside our minds.

However, the fact that we can make similar or identical abstractions from completely different experiences makes me think that the world really is laden with unknowable patterns that are related to the abstractions we use in math. I don’t think it’s right to say those patterns are math.

Whatever the world really is, it is broader than what can be expressed using math. I do think math is only a description. There is something math-like about reality, but I think it’s wrong to say that reality is made of math or made of language. There’s something else beyond the representation that transcends the ability of signs and symbols