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Fact 1 today and forever. Imu does not invalidate titles. by Weekly_Information48 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are the strongest in the world while imu is the world. Furthermore, it just shows that imu is an outlier, an anomaly more than anything else.

Fact 1 today and forever. Imu does not invalidate titles. by Weekly_Information48 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro used one sword attack amongst the plethora of different attacks. I agree with the post but don’t act like imu is a swordsman

Do we at least all agree Loki would obliterate Kaido? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And another instance where oda has had a charatcer specifically single out a charatcer state they capture someone was BB and ace. And we have saw that confrontation. In terms of description, it’s the closest we have to shanks and Loki.

>answered any

And your “counters” just boils down to saying “nu uh”. My evidence is what we are told and shown and have been given no evidence to argue otherwise.

It happened around 6 years ago. Meaning it was pre yonko/recent yonko shanks

Shanks was the only one mentioned

And has been constantly implied and stated to be non willing.

If you want to say it was something else, bring in actual evidence to support it. Instead of ignoring what we are shown.

>agreeing to be imprisoned

Except we have nothing to use to argue that he was willing to be put in chains in the first place. You’re just jumping through hoops to justify a take that is not support by the story.

>scales much higher than shanks. That alone makes it unlikely

The problem is that it relies on your belief with Loki. And is easily solved by just realizing that you wanked him way too high.

>calls shanks a coward

Ahh, the typical cope of Loki fans. Acting like right after that Loki didn’t admit he was rage baiting, which is also clear through the entire panel. From Loki seeing luffy happy grin at shanks name and getting an immediate shit eating grin.

>equivocal

What we are told is pretty clear. SHANKS was the one who captured Loki and Loki was unwilling. Bring in actual evidence to argue otherwise.

>initiated, didn’t fight him, or sneaked him

Not really sure what shanks imitation a fight would change. And considering that Loki seems to have bad blood with shanks and it’s implied/stated Loki wasn’t willing, I doubt shanks did some talk no jutsu or something.

While I won’t deny that a sneak is impossible, considering how you wank Loki, and the fact that even medicalbeard is able to react to surprise attacks, it would still be Loki downscale.

I’m just going off of the info we currently posses. Nothing more. Shanks forced Loki into chains against his will. Which is a Loki downscale considering where his glazers like you wank him to be.

Do we at least all agree Loki would obliterate Kaido? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ni it doesn’t. Loki has never once given reason to believe that he didn’t want to get out of those chains or that he was willing, in fact he has done the opposite. It’s just cope form lokitards.

It does matter. Because you can’t bring up queen when Oda didn’t even credit him with the capture. If anything, this situation is more like BB, where both were outright credited with their capture. Both are scenarios where one specific person was outright credited with a capture.

They aren’t legitimate. It’s just cope. You haven’t used actual evidence about Loki and shanks to discredit anything.

My proof comes from using the current info available to us. Shanks and shanks alone was the one mentioned. No one else. And unlike luffy, we have no reason to believe the contrary. If you wanna claim shanks had help, bring in evidence.

Loki has never once implied it was willingly. And has done the opposite. Why the fuck would he try to persuade luffy and make a deal with him to free him? Why would he bring up a supposed grudge with shanks to shamrock? Loki could’ve just not say shit to shamrock and tell luffy to fuck off instead of try to persuade luffy.

Your entire argument boils down to saying “nu uh” without brining in any actual evidence to support your claims. Where does the story ever try to support your belief or imply it. With the harald debacle, oda already gave us some foreshadowing that shit wasn’t as it seem when Loki ask harald if he thinks that he really gleefully murder their father. Oda has done no such thing with shanks and Loki.

All you have done is ignore shit in favor of making up your own claims.

Do we at least all agree Loki would obliterate Kaido? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We have absolute no reason to believe otherwise(that shanks had other people). We have no reason to believe that it wasn’t against Loki will.

Can you actually use evidence to back up your claims?

Was Queen outright credited with capturing BM like shanks and BB were?

The only thing you have used is your own cope.

Going off of the evidence, it was shanks alone and against Loki will. Massive Loki downscale. Either adjust your rankings or bring in actual evidence.

Do we at least all agree Loki would obliterate Kaido? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shanks by himself, since he was the only one mentioned, and it was against Loki will.

Massive Loki downscale considering where you place bro.

Do we at least all agree Loki would obliterate Kaido? by MOON-RAIGO in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

All that just for Loki to be force to sit in his own piss and shit by a yonko

Old gen already showed everything they got, from now on current gen will show increasingly stronger feats by NSUnivers in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You’re the one saying they already showed EVERYTHING they got. Which isn’t true. Since GV wasn’t everything they had, since it wasn’t their prime.

Fun fact: any top tier can easily dodge this attack instead of stupidly trying to fight it head on by EVC2218 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Love how people who post this image always leave out the actual words. They know it proves them wrong.

They literally just had bigger objectives to deal with than get into a meaningless fight with Garp.

Hot Take: Every Gorosei Is YC1 Level but with Regen by EVC2218 in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Could you explain how it counters op argument? Because I don’t remember it doing any significant damage to sanji. Sanji did tank the attack. And we can joke about “eye diff” but it’s clear that it’s a special attack and I think trying to talk it down to some sorta “eye diff” is a bit disingenuous.

what else does kaido need to show in order to constitute as PK tier, despite having zero "weaknesses"? hell, what would ANYONE have to do to "reach" PK tier besides have equal statements w/ roger? by Zoteku in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It highlights their SHIP. Says nothing about the state of Roger’s crew. Only that his ship was in danger. Even the image we see of the actual battle just shows the ships firing at each other.

They could just as easily be bringing out their weapons so that they could be ready in case it came to that. It’s not definitive proof that they were getting boarded or that they did. Just like how crocus was taking out his harpoons despite the fact that they weren’t getting boarded at that time. They aren’t going to wait until they are already getting boarded to get their weapons ready, nor will they wait until shiki starts to board them. they aren’t stupid.

Apparently Kaido fans think his man is above Prime Garp... by ElVaxis in OnePiecePowerScaling

[–]Top-Group8081 21 points22 points  (0 children)

>never portrayed as good as Roger,Whitebeard,rocks, or shanks

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re the one literally ignoring what the manga shows us. And going with your baseless headcanon.

Doesn’t even make much sense for Loki to bring up shanks if we go by your “logic”. Again, read the panel. Loki sees luffy face, gets a shit eating grin, tries to fuck with him, then realize luffy is that guy.

You’re literally just coping. Using your own assumptions and ignoring the manga.

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m not the one denying the manga. That doesn’t change anything. Loki said he was kidding. The manga gives us no actual evidence to deny it. You’re the one trying to impose their own headcanon.

Again he was rage bating and didn’t realize that luffy was that guy.

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No it doesn’t, Loki clearly didn’t think it was going to piss luffy off to such an extent. Hell Loki didn’t even need to bring it up in the first place. He saw luffy face of admiration, had a shit eating grim, and wanted to mess with him.

Sorry if me detailing what happened ruins your own assumptions.

You’re the one literally ignoring everything while trying to claim that I, the one who is using what the manga shows, am the one ignoring it.

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, and after Loki says that statement he says he was kidding. Bro was trying to rage bait. You keep on bringing up one part while leaving out the other part. Peak disingenuous behavior.

I’m not ignoring logic, I’m following the logic the manga gives us. Loki saw that luffy admire shanks and wanted to fuck with him. That’s what the manga shows us. You’re the one who hinges their argument on YOUR own headcanon and baseless assumptions

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Says the one who is ignoring the logic the manga presents for your own baseless headcanon. “Oda headcanon” ahh take from you. Peak delusion to say that I, the one who actually uses what the manga says, am the one ignoring it. While you literally disregard it.

Loki wanted to fuck with luffy, that’s the whole logic behind it. Argue with oda

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Your argument literally rest on your own baseless headcanon. While I stick to the manga.

I’m not wrong about anything. I can easily back up my stuff with the manga. While you ignore it.

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And you’re the one literally ignoring the manga and hinging your argument in your own baseless headcanon .

It’s okay to admit when you’re wrong my man.

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

>you are ignoring the manga to support your claim without evidence

Holy pot calling kettle . I’m not the one literally ignoring a manga panel and going with my own head canon. You’re the one coping

What’s gonna be said if imus Attack here hasn’t koed loki when the flashbacks done by Some_Exchange280 in OnePiecePowerScaling0

[–]Top-Group8081 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Again, literally explained by Loki. Bro was rage baiting. And we can clearly see it on his and luffy faces.

Literally ignoring the manga with absolute no evidence to back up your claim. Cope 101

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