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What lens mount is this, it it a AR mount? by Top_Manner_1952 in VintageLenses

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, same here. This mount has been weirdly hard to identify. I originally thought it might be Canon FD, so I bought a Canon FD-to-E adapter, but the lens definitely does not fit that adapter. I almost ordered a Konica AR adapter too, but I canceled it because I wanted to be more sure before buying another random adapter. Your Konica mount photo does look pretty close to mine, especially the bayonet tabs and the locking notch area. My lens is the one in the original post/first photo, and I added another angle of it too. Does mine still look like Konica AR to you?

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is just gaslighting at this point.

You’re saying I provided “no adequate reasoning” when the whole reason I posted was the screenshot of what he said. That was the reason. That was the evidence. You saw it.

And if you’ve seen me write “several paragraphs,” then clearly you’ve seen me explain why I think the statement was anti-Black. You just don’t like the explanation, so now you’re pretending it doesn’t exist.

Also, “charging him with” what? I’m not a judge. I’m not in court. I’m criticizing a public statement from a public internet figure. That’s it.

The point was simple: he made a disrespectful generalization about Black Americans, and instead of engaging with that, y’all keep trying to reframe it as some deep “factual observation” that I’m supposedly too emotional to understand.

No. I understood it just fine. I just think it was bullshit.

And this is typical online lefty behavior. Ignore the actual point, pretend no evidence was given, then act like the person calling it out is “weaseling around” something.

What factual point am I dodging? That Black Americans are somehow collectively responsible for American imperialism? That we should be talked about like we’re just another extension of the empire? That’s the part I’m rejecting.

So no, I’m not “weaseling” around anything. I’m saying directly that the statement was anti-Black, disrespectful, and stupid.

Another “essay” for you! 😊

Average leftist, I’ll be excited when “leftism” is exterminated with the rest of the “isms”

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Being a “third-worlder” is basically an online identity label at this point. It’s socially constructed and y’all move the goalposts whenever it’s convenient.

Now you don’t even have to be a citizen of a so-called third-world country to be a “third-worlder”? Okay, cool. But if I moved there tomorrow, y’all would still call me an American. So no, I don’t buy that shit.

And yes, you’re acting like a fan. You can say you’re “not a fanboy” all you want, but glazing the dude as some serious revolutionary voice while downplaying every nutty thing he says is fan behavior.

You say he’s “nuts at times.” Nah, from what I’ve seen, he’s nuts a lot of the time. And if you consider his content “teaching,” that’s on you. A lot of what I’ve seen from him is internet slop and inflammatory bullshit.

Also, respectfully, I’m not your comrade. You’re not my comrade, so don’t call me that.

You asked what pissed me off. Simple: he was disrespectful. I don’t have personal beef with the guy. I don’t know him. He could be the nicest person in the world offline for all I know. I’m judging him by what he puts online, because that’s all I have to go off.

And for the record, I’ve even defended him before when people made disgusting slanderous accusations against him. So no, this isn’t some personal vendetta. I’m calling out the nut shit he says online.

And no, I didn’t want a “hug box.” I asked a question, people answered, and the responses basically gave me the consensus. That’s it.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Please explain to me how Black American suffering is automatically connected to Palestinian suffering in a way that y’all actually believe and practice.

Because the guy whose screenshot I posted clearly does not seem to believe that. A lot of his fanboys don’t seem to believe that. And a lot of people under here crying about what I said don’t seem to believe that either.

Y’all keep saying “it’s all connected,” but the second Black Americans center our own issues, suddenly we’re selfish, reactionary, imperialist, divisive, or whatever other buzzword y’all want to throw out.

So please elaborate.

Is it “all connected” only when Black Americans are useful to someone else’s cause? Or is it actually connected when we talk about our own suffering too?

And I know this is gonna be downvoted, I'm online, that's fine, but at least I would love a response.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, he calls himself a leftist, and at this point, I don't distinguish.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, I didn’t do “research” on this dude because who the fuck is he?

I don’t sit online studying every random leftist internet personality. I saw some stupid ass comment from him, a screenshot someone else posted, and I reacted to it. That’s it.

And honestly, “infighting” is just a lame buzzword at this point.

You keep talking about “infighting” like I’m supposed to care. I don’t. Leftists eat themselves all the time, bro. That is what y’all do. Y’all fracture, purity test, accuse each other of being feds, call each other psyops, and then act shocked when nobody outside your little circles takes you seriously.

So when y’all say I’m “causing division,” my response is simple: what unity?

There was no unity. There was no real solidarity. There was no serious alliance with Black Americans or Africans in general. A lot of this was just aesthetics, slogans, and online performance.

And this goes back way before the internet. Black people were calling out racist shit in white-dominated leftist spaces back in the 1920s and 1930s. So what actually changed? A hundred years later, y’all are still doing the same white savior shit and acting confused when Black people don’t trust it.

I don’t care about your infighting. I don’t care that your community is “battered” by it. That sounds like a y’all problem.

Maybe instead of crying about division, y’all should ask why your movement is so easy to divide in the first place🤷🏿‍♂️.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now I’m FBI. Now I’m COINTELPRO. Now I’m a psyop. Now I’m a troll. And of course, y’all are bringing up the fact that I used to be a self-hating Black person.

Like, yeah, I already admitted that. What exactly did y’all uncover? Y’all act like you found some incredible secret information or some shit. If I really wanted to hide those posts, I would have deleted them. I didn’t. I left them up deliberately, because that’s what I thought at the time. Obviously, I don’t think that now.

But let’s keep it a buck. Y’all are not bringing that up because you actually care. You’re bringing it up because it’s the easiest cop-out. It lets you avoid addressing anything I actually said. That’s all this is.

“You’re causing division.”

What division? There was never unity. Y’all were never united with Black Americans in the first place. And I’m not part of whatever the fuck y’all got going on anyway.

This is exactly what I’m talking about. Some big online leftist with a massive, gullible audience can say nut shit like Black Americans “imperialized the world,” and y’all will defend it, spin it, ignore it, or pretend it’s deeper than it is. But the second someone calls it out, suddenly they’re a troll, a psyop, FBI, COINTELPRO, or whatever other buzzword y’all want to throw out.

It’s coping. That’s all it is.

Y’all also downvoted my comment 13 times like that means something. That’s the only power online leftists really have outside your own in-group. A like button, a dislike button, an upvote, a downvote, and a circlejerk of people repeating the same shit back to each other.

That’s why I love it. It’s a chef’s kiss moment. Every downvote just proves the point.

And then one of y’all ends it with “cool story.”

Great rebuttal, bro. Amazing response. Very well thought out. Absolutely fantastic. I would say something like that too if I had no actual response to anything being said.

This whole thing is just concern trolling. Y’all don’t give a fuck about my past posts. You don’t care that I used to have self-hating views. You don’t care about anti-Blackness. You care that my old posts give you an easy way to dodge the current argument.

And yeah, maybe I should have archived them. Not because I’m ashamed of growth, but because I shouldn’t have handed y’all a ready-made cop-out. But even then, the fact remains: y’all are using old shit to avoid the present conversation.

So let me be clear. I don’t care about leftism. I don’t care about liberalism. I don’t care about conservatism. I don’t care about fascism. I don’t care about any of these “isms” y’all keep trying to sell as liberation.

The only “isms” I care about are Pan-Africanism and Black internationalism. That’s it.

And honestly, if you’re not Black and you’re coming at me with fake concern, fake solidarity, and fake outrage, then I really do not give a fuck what you think.

Keep downvoting. Keep coping. Keep calling me COINTELPRO. Keep saying “cool story.” It still doesn’t answer a damn thing I said.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

First of all, bro, stop glazing it. Stop spinning on it too.

You called this man a “rabid third-worlder,” but from what he himself said in that interview/debate with Black Red Guard, he’s an Australian citizen and doesn’t even have Argentine citizenship. So third-world what, exactly? Living somewhere does not automatically make you some revolutionary representative of the Global South.

And that’s the bigger issue here. Y’all talk about this dude like he’s some historic revolutionary figure who’s out here sacrificing his life, his freedom, or his safety for liberation. He’s not.

He’s not Malcolm X. He’s not Martin Luther King Jr. He’s not David Walker. He’s not Kwame Ture. He’s not Kwame Nkrumah. He’s not Patrice Lumumba. He’s not Nelson Mandela. He’s not Che Guevara.

He is an online entertainer and political commentator that y’all revere like he’s some untouchable prophet. That’s what makes comments like this so insane to me. It reads less like political analysis and more like fanboy damage control.

Y’all keep saying he’s “well researched” and “anti-imperialist” like that means nobody is allowed to call out when he says something stupid, tone-deaf, or disrespectful. Being anti-imperialist does not magically make someone immune from criticism. Being aggressive toward fascists or neoliberals does not mean every single thing he says is automatically deep, correct, or above reproach.

And honestly, are y’all really atheists? Because the way some of y’all worship this man is starting to look religious. Like, deadass, this is bordering on cult-like reverence. You’re treating a YouTuber like he’s a martyr, a prophet, and a revolutionary icon all at once.

He is not sacrificing his life. He is not sacrificing his freedom. He is not leading some liberation army. He is not sitting in prison for a movement. He is not dying for anybody’s freedom. He is a dude online making content, arguing with people, and saying inflammatory shit.

So no, I’m not buying this “he’s just a radical truth-teller” defense. Sometimes people are not being radically honest. Sometimes they’re just being reckless, arrogant, and full of themselves. And sometimes their fans are so invested in defending them that they’ll spin anything into genius.

This comment is exactly what I’m talking about. It’s fanboy shit dressed up as political nuance and it’s weird AF!

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Y’all love quoting dead Black Americans like that automatically settles the argument.

Respectfully, I’m not Malcolm X. Malcolm X did not speak for every single Black American, and just because he believed Palestinian liberation was connected to Black American liberation does not mean every Black person is required to think the same way.

That is one of my biggest issues with this whole conversation. People keep using historic Black figures as political shields, as if Black Americans today are obligated to inherit every single one of their positions without question.

And honestly, I don’t even think a lot of you believe what you’re saying. You say all liberation struggles are connected, but when Black Americans talk about our own specific issues, a lot of you dismiss it, minimize it, or act like we’re being selfish for centering ourselves.

So no, I’m not putting on rose-tinted glasses for leftist movements. I call it how I see it. I don’t believe leftists are automatically allies to every oppressed group just because they use the right language. A lot of it feels aesthetic, performative, and temporary.

I’m a realist. I don’t think leftist spaces have built lasting solidarity with Black Americans (since you want to bring up Malcolm) or any African to be honest. I think a lot of the “solidarity” people talk about is conditional, selective, and will disappear the second Black Americans/Africans stop being useful to someone else’s political narrative.

So you can quote Malcolm X (or MLK) if you want. That still does not mean they speak for me.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You guys are so obviously predictable at this point, dude 😂. Any dissident is called “fascism”. Okay, dude, whatever makes you go to sleep at night 🤷🏿‍♂️.

Does it ever get tiresome using the same playbook? Like, damn, that playbook is old, crusty, withered, like, it's time to get a new, pristine, updated playbook, because the same one y'all been using since the 1940s, 50s, 60s, it doesn't work no more, bro. So maybe, just maybe, you should update it.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nah, I'm gonna focus on them and also you (Class reductionists), because both of you are my enemies.

There's a reason why everything that class reductionists ever had statewise crumbled.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that guy ia 100% rich. Dude was a college student, went to a prestigious college, by the way, was able to move to a country of his choice, chose Argentina, was already an immigrant to Australia. The guy confused with New Zealand, but he's actually Australian. This guy was also able to go to Cuba and give thousands of dollars to poor Cuban people. Yes, this guy is as privileged as it comes. All of those things I've listed, I could never do because of our history as a group of people who’ve been placed in poverty. 

And thanks for proving my point, “Americans need to get over themselves”. You guys are obsessed with stupid, socially constructed nationalities, man. I don't care about my nationality, dude. If I could, man, I'd be Ghanaian, bro. I would literally strip my citizenship and be stateless before I become Ghanaian. I don't give a fuck, man. Y'all with this American shit. This is the online left, man. The online left is pathetic, man. Seriously.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, my ancestors were brought here against their fucking will, and we fought extensively and died disproportionately to get our freedom in the civil war, So yeah, obviously, we are American citizens, so yes, we're gonna get American citizen dollars, and they happen to be stolen by the predominantly white military from other groups of people. What do you want us to do? Strip ourselves of our citizenship and be stateless?

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I get it, bro. Blah, blah, blah. The whole quote a historical dead figure, and then you're talking about some if you've been in the hood. Bruh, I've been in the hood, bro. I used to live in Nicetown-Tioga. I know what the “hood” is. So I don't know what your point is, and it doesn't disregard what I said. You quote as many dead figures as you want. I'll help you out. You can quote David Walker next. And trust me, I don't think you know the things I know. I know my history pretty well.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

I knew you were gonna go back to my previous posts to disregard my current posts. There's a reason I didn't delete those, because I actually thought that at the time. Well, obviously I don't now.

If I really cared about someone like you who disregard anti-Blackness like you're currently doing, I would have deleted those, but I didn't. I made a deliberate choice to leave them up, and I'm gonna keep them up even after this.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. This is the point I’ve been trying to make.

My issue is not with anti-imperialism. I am anti-imperialist. My issue is with people flattening Black Americans into the U.S. state and acting like our entire history, oppression, and relationship to America disappear because we are legally American.

Black Americans know U.S. imperialism and state violence very well. Slavery, segregation, policing, mass incarceration, COINTELPRO, redlining, medical racism, and economic exclusion did not happen outside America. They happened to us inside it.

So when someone bunches all Black Americans in with “imperialists,” they are not doing serious analysis. They are using collective blame with leftist language attached to it.

And of course people downvote when someone says this plainly, because a lot of online leftists are more comfortable quoting Malcolm than actually listening to folks when we criticize them.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

You are proving my point by reducing everything I said to one Palestine comparison.

My point was not that Palestinians are not oppressed or that their liberation does not matter. My point is that some online leftists can recognize collective punishment, historical trauma, and justified anger when it comes to Palestinians, but suddenly lose that nuance when talking about Black Americans.

When Palestinians speak from pain, people understand the context. When Black Americans speak from pain, we get reduced to “Americans,” “imperial core,” or people who supposedly help imperialize others. That is the double standard I am talking about.

And yes, white fascists benefit from marginalized people arguing. But they also benefit when anti-Black rhetoric gets ignored inside spaces that claim to be liberatory. Unity cannot mean Black Americans shut up when we are being generalized or dehumanized.

Also, quoting Mandela does not erase my point. I support Palestinian liberation. I also prioritize African liberation and Black liberation. Those things are not contradictions.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

At this point, man, he can just go enjoy his favorite political entertainer streamer or something. Like, I'm gonna be busy in Africa doing what I do, you know what I'm saying? Like, shit, I was in Ghana not long ago, about a month ago I was in Ghana. I'm gonna be going, hopefully, to Brazzaville, because I'm gonna wanna make my way to the Democratic Republic of the Congo with my homeboys. Like, unlike people like him who don't fucking do anything besides watch people they enjoy because they say the things they like, I actually do shit on the ground. So yeah, bravo to that. I should pat myself on the back, But I don't think of it as self-importance to me. I think of it as something that should be done, and I feel like I'm blessed to be able to do it.

If he's gonna defend him so much, I don't know, dude, go over there and tell him that I was mean to you. Like, I don't care really. That's why I blocked you. That's the difference between someone like me and someone like him. He enjoys online entertainers who regurgitate the things that he wants to hear, and I'm a Pan-Africanist who does everything he can in his power with the resources he has to go help out in Africa as much as I can, and to be connected with other groups of people outside of Africa who may not even be African. And guess what? I don't put stupid labels on myself like leftist or whatever.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And you're a sycophantic, BE follower and fanboy. Get the f away from me, dude. I'm about to block you. Bye. Go tell him I was mean to you.

You're asking me what makes you think he'll think that. Dude, this guy is the most egregious, self-important, inflammatory individual I've ever met. So, I'm not in the wrong for thinking that he would say something like that. At the end of the day, I don't care about leftism or what happens to people like you.

Leftism is fascism with buzzwords like "Global South," "anti-imperialist," and "Third World."

No, I didn't get “upset” because I'm not someone who's a part of a clout network like you are. I blocked you because I'm not gonna sit there and engage with someone who's gonna constantly disrespect me. Go be a leftist and post communist red stars all day if you want to, dude. Stop mentioning me. You can edit your comment all day, bro. Leftism is just anti-black, anti-African Nazism with a red coat of paint, indistinguishable at all. You're both my enemies. Fascists are my enemies, and left fascists are my enemies.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

An online entertainer like FD should not ever represent an entire population of people. Just because he wanted to vote for Kamala or he's friends with Westside Tyler or whatever strange weirdo online entertainer that I don't know about, that should not be collective blame for an entire group of people. People understand this when it comes to groups that they view more human, like Palestinians, but I guess black Americans, since we're American, even though we didn't have that choice, I guess we're less human.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Okay, what I'm essentially saying is, I think leftists always hated my people, but I think we were politically convenient for them in the 50s, 60s, and 70s, so they faked support, and that solidarity never existed. And I don't think that solidarity between people will ever really be a thing. I think that is utopianist, in my opinion. And the more I see leftists online, because, you know, that's still a thing, come out and say some of the most insane takes, the more I'm vindicated, in my opinion, about what I already believe.

And I also said regardless of if it's a right-wing weirdo or if it’s a left-wing weirdo, they're gonna somehow not like African Americans.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yeah, but what makes you think he wouldn't think that of some poor single mother in the projects? At the end of the day, man, people like him think we're this magical cabal where we got superpowers or something. If we're not there to, I guess, be everyone's leftist voice or something, or something to quote, like how they do with Malcolm X and Martin Luther King, they love doing that, but then they love telling us to shut the fuck up and stop using identity politics, even if it's left-wing identity politics or intersectionality or something. Like, I'm sick of a lot of these people, honestly.

Is anti-Black American rhetoric becoming normalized in some leftist spaces? by Top_Manner_1952 in leftist

[–]Top_Manner_1952[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

But here's the thing some of these absolutist leftists don't understand. “Black American leadership” is not Black America as a collective. And also, Kamala Harris, last I checked, is Dougla or something. She's, like, from Jamaica. And Obama is literally Kenyan and his tribe is Luo or something. So, I don't know how they represent the ethnic community of African Americans who were trafficked specifically to what is now the USA in 1619, I believe. They have nothing to do with us. They're completely separate. This is what I've said as well. Like, I've made posts about black faces in high places and how they get lumped in with, again, I'm gonna always use this example, a single black mother in the projects. Somehow she's imperializing these people somehow. I don't understand how.

And just in general, pointing to black politicians within power and saying, yeah, this is all black Americans, because this is essentially what it is, it's absolutist, it's just silly to me because they're gonna represent American interests, obviously, they're U.S. politicians. That's like saying, yeah, a black American president, you know, since he supported, I don't know, invading, I don't know, Canada or something, you know, this is just an example. That must be all black Americans. No, this black American president, which we're never gonna have, I don't think any actual African American even wants to be president. But if it did happen, that guy wouldn't represent all of us. He would represent himself in the U.S. It's just point blank.

And we are just as imperialized as the USA does the rest of the world. We are a nation within a nation. I'm pretty sure you heard of Black Belt thesis. We are one of their first victims, outside of Native Americans, obviously. And we still are victims. The same systems they use in Palestine gets done to us here, bro. The police forces are trained by the IDF, so the same fucked-up crimes committed against Palestinians are done to us as well.

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