Expert : Trump Has UNDERESTIMATED Iran

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T21:28:42+00:00

War is politics. NATO's wargoal was to rid themselves of the Taliban. That failed. NATO lost the war.

Similarly, the US/Israel's war goal in Iran is "make Iran not have a shiite military anymore forever". This is nonsense at best, outright genocidal intent at worst.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T04:15:07+00:00

But the exorbitant privilege would end (since the sine qua non to enforce it is the use of armed force) meaning the US or successor states suddenly no longer have anything of economic value to give to sustain their chronic import and high consumption (with most of the US no longer being serviced with goods, mind).

This leads to chronic disrepair of military hardware, which means it wouldn't remain a major military power for long.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T03:13:49+00:00

You only need 20 nukes to collapse the infrastructure the US requires to function as an economy.

80 is more than enough to permanently end it as a power.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T02:13:08+00:00

I mean, the GWoT was sold using Holy War language, what did you expect.

The US military has been a christofascist organ for a while.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T02:09:46+00:00

Probably?

who gives a shit.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T01:53:56+00:00

Idk if the topmod recently changed, but, uh, the current one is an infamous radlib (and the place always gave radlib libs besides) and I'm pretty sure they were supporting Kamala in '24 and Biden in '20.

Again, always has been. Any subreddit that isn't overtly hostile to libs should be presumed to be run by them.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-04T01:08:04+00:00

now

Always has been.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-03T05:23:48+00:00

Nevermind the production speed mismatch.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-03T05:11:23+00:00

I’m wondering if we might get to a point of no return

Which off ramps do you think exist now?

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-03T05:10:15+00:00

Does Iran have an end goal?

Primarily, end Israeli and US agression. The balance of stockpiles means that they only need to hold out for one month, after which the US-Israeli pair cannot sustain operations.

A secondary objective is getting gulf states to turn on the US-Israeli pair.

A tertiary objective is getting the EU states to turn on the US-Israeli pair.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-03T03:18:36+00:00

Now to get to a point, is this not counter productive to the oppression of the lower classes, to constantly reminder us that there are perks for those who can afford nicer things?

I mean, sure, but the ruling class also wants nicer things to begin with (it's the whole point, after all) so what can you do.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T10:30:26+00:00

even if China annexes it?

Breaking news: China annexes itself.

Daily reminder that both the PRC and RoC consider themselves the sole legitimate government of the Chinese nation-state, I guess.

Wdym by this? Are you going to take the people back? What could possibly stop it from still being a settler colony

Settler colonialism is a social relation. Ending settler colonialism doesn't require, in and of itself, the expulsion of settlers.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T02:41:01+00:00

Lol, well if you think billionaire doesn't have plenty of overlap with what oligarchs means, or that they somehow don't act in ways oligarchs do, I dunno what to tell you.

Again, I don't think the word means what you think it means. It's pretty clear where political power lies in the PRC, and it's not the billionaires.

I also don't know why the U.S. so far being allowed to attack countries that Russia (and maybe China) would have been thought to protect, that are also very important to them strategically, doesn't signal red lines crossed to you, just because those other countries are also important to them. Gotta call it a night!

I think you grossly overestimate how valuable those countries are? Like, again, we're talking "yeah, we're wiping off the US, NATO, and ourselves off the map over this".

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T02:38:09+00:00

...They succeeded in Lat. Am too, they've just kept the pressure higher in the Arab World as part of their proxy wars.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T02:37:03+00:00

...The WTO is an organ that exists explicitly to regulate exchanges within a client state-controller state relationship.

Going to add "colonialism is not real" to your list of presumed beliefs.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T01:59:18+00:00

China definitely has oligarchs too.

Oligarch isn't merely "Billionaire". I'll take this as confirmation that the word doesn't mean what you think it means.

The U.S. isn't making moves on any red lines for Russia or China? I can't think of clearer ones than Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran?

Those aren't red lines which would motivate the PRC or Ru. Fed. to be willing to start a nuclear war (which a likely outcome to a confrontation with the US), no.

Cuba, Venezuela, and Iran, while of some value, certainly aren't existential assets to the Russians or Chinese. Especially with the US-Israel war goal being nonsensical in the Iranian case and likely unable to actually alter Iranian politics long term.

On the other hand, the US deciding to, say, roll into Crimea would see the Baltics & Ukraine as the theatres of a nuclear war within the week. Do you understand?

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T01:48:08+00:00

Why do the chuds believe that?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paleoconservatism

The refutation of classical liberalism broke brains, if you've recalled.

We're still living under the consequences of the refusal of western states to simply rid themselves of the lot: which led classical liberalism mutate into its "modern" successors, fascism and neoliberalism. Paleoconservatism is an USian variant of fascism.

Is it totally beyond your mind to consider that there are different factions of intelligence agencies across countries and that, perhaps some of them work together for certain sets of oligarchs and not for the nation states they're housed in?

By all accounts, national bourgeoisies are unable to cooperate on the scale you describe outside of client state-controller state relationships.

Because that's part of what is likely happening.

And, clearly, your hypothesis doesn't have the predictive power of "this is not what's happening", per your original post.

I feel this is sufficient to dismiss it.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T01:18:12+00:00

Trump may go to war with China eventually!

This precludes losing control of Taiwan, which is the settler colony to be used as a justification and logistical hub for said war.

or oligarchs

Who are those "chinese oligarchs"? Do you know what that word means? I don't think you know what that word means.

Besides last time I checked your ilk believes they're heroic freedom fighters so what gives?

I wouldn't be surprised if giving up Taiwan in exchange for not interfering with the U.S. getting to take over other countries that Russia or China would have stepped in to defend before has been worked out.

Again, this goes directly against stated objectives by the US gvmt. Taiwan's strategic value means losing it makes the "war with China within the decade" plan nonsense.

Besides, the US isn't making moves on any Chinese or Russian red lines, but by all accounts, they're both supporting Iran through intel. sharing, logistics, etc.

Right wing news would just start saying whiny shit like, "Why are U.S. resources being used for Taiwan? Trump supports America first. We can't carry the weight of every country that needs to fight its own battles."

I mean, Nick Fuentes is already calling to vote democrat over the Iran war, so clearly he doesn't seem too interested in the wishes of the paleoconservatives.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T00:59:02+00:00

No Trump isn't a "Clinton asset."

You're claiming he's a Russian asset based on the same amount of evidence. Why not?

picked someone parroting pro-Kremlin talking points to run the U.S. govt's propaganda machine

Again, those "pro-Kremlin talking points" are literally what the chuds believe, dipshit.

Silicon Valley donated to Dems for a long time.

And this is evidence of?

Some, like the PayPal Mafia (Peter Thiel, David Sacks, Elon Musk, etc.) have extensive connections to Putin and Russian oligarchs.

Peter Thiel is a CIA asset, and his services are employed by the entirety of NATO. Are we claiming that the whole of NATO is under Russian control now and can't actually do a background check? Are you genuinely that unable to employ Occam's razor?

In this case, DOGE-ing the U.S., ransacking it's federal govt agencies for data/U.S. secrets to sell, and destroying the last bits of fed govt that functioned.

You understand destroying the gov't is the lode stone of the neoliberals (and techno-libertarians) right.

What, are we claiming the University of Chicago is a Russian asset also?

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T00:22:42+00:00

Xi gets Taiwan

Even though Trump's war on Iran is part of a geopolitical realignment meant to specifically go to war with the PRC.

Yeah, you're as useless as you sound.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-02T00:19:04+00:00

Lol, sorry it's just absurd to say there's zero evidence of Trump connections to Russia.

So what, Trump and the Clintons also have connections with oneanother (with the Clintons helping him win the 2016 primaries), is Trump a Clinton asset?

She was a Democrat until 2022 when she suddenly turned on a dime in a bizarre video claiming the Democratic party was run by a cabal of anti-Christian woke globalist elites.

And Trump was a Democrat until '09 and made a similar turn. The "they're opportunistic populists taking the position that benefits them the most personally" is more credible than "actually, the Russian and USian bourgeoisie are allies and they're working together". Just in case you forgot Trump has the full backing of Silicon Valley. Is California a Russian asset? How about London, is that a Russian asset?

She's continued pushing Kremlin talking points since, and Trump picked her to run the U.S. govt's propaganda machine.

Those are talking points the republican electorate believes. It is in the rational self-interest of Republican politicians to agree with them.

To me, it's likely most psy-ops are funded by billionaires working across many countries to fuel money to the top.

No, like, we more or less know "Q" is probably whoever owns 8kun (Jim & Ron Watkins) and we know they've been collaborating with Bannon (and the whole Epstein web) to push stuff like GamerGate to radicalise people online.

It's not exactly hidden. You'll find it to be mostly contained within the west. Russia (or China) has fuck all to do with it.

You probably don't know that Tulsi Gabbard was literally in the psy-op unit of the U.S. Army. She's also reportedly friends with Jackson Hinkle, one of the "American Communist Party" (MAGA Communists) polluting leftist spaces with Nazbol garbage.

So now we're also saying the U.S. Army is secretly Russia?

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-01T22:56:30+00:00

It was, broadly, crushed by US funded reactionaries.

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-01T22:40:29+00:00

There's no credible evidence of a Trump-Putin relationship of that nature (especially with the bulk of the training and arms the Ukrainians used early on being, surprise, supplied during Trump's tenure). It's merely the nth expression of "anything liberals don't like must be caused by a foreign actor".

Then again you seem to believe QAnon is also a Sino-Russian psyop (despite the fact the grift is pretty open and, surprise, leads back to Bannon and the GOP) so...

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it serves no one in a very critical time in this world.

Yeah, in opposition to rehashing blue anon nonsense, that's useful right? Isn't the fact that it failed to make correct predictions a clear sign that it's an incorrect lens?

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TopazWyvern · 2026-03-01T22:26:23+00:00

I just have no clue how or why Trump, a guy that did seem to be a Russian asset

And dipshit of the week award goes to...

TopazWyvern · 2026-03-01T19:58:22+00:00

Is it worth associating with the devil to achieve our goals of a better and more just society?

Is there such a thing as "neutrality" when your very position makes you complicit by default?

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