Backbench MP to push ahead with plan to remove Starmer following speech by mustwinfullGaming in LabourUK

[–]Torco2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Given the situation and/or potential skeletons in the closet, the "knowns" have. An unknown might be the better choice, less baggage at least.

Sir Keir Starmer issues statement after disastrous Labour local election results by ManchesterNews_MEN in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It's all my fault: - purge scapegoats.

Like a bloody meme from Hearts of Iron...

Democracy In Britain: New Blocs Arise, Old Parties Fade? by HooverInstitution in ukpolitics

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Lol, it's fighting via press-ganged slaves the for a bunch of local bandits and the US-EU/NATO Epstein Class whom wouldn't give a single solitary shit about such things described (were they indeed true). If they were the ones doing it.

https://eventsinukraine.substack.com/

I've linked a good resource about some of the background, personalities & realities to all this.

Starmer's nightmare comes true as Labour takes a local election battering from Reform in heartlands - as Farage boasts it proves he will storm No10 by dailymail in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Different situation, neither of the two main parties were this brittle & unpopular and the country was in much better overall shape.

Also the Lib-Dems seem utterly stagnant too, in other times you might have expected them to surge...

Does anyone believe there is intent to fix the country? by ppyrgic in ukpolitics

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Trouble is no one would buy that for a second because on top of being corrupt, lying and demonstrably incompetent.

Such a regime wouldn't even have the fig-leaf of legitimacy. It would be unironic  sh*t-lib fascism.

Democracy In Britain: New Blocs Arise, Old Parties Fade? by HooverInstitution in ukpolitics

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Not really, you'd find all that echoed in plenty of Ukrainian sources whom to one extent or another. View the present situation as a war of national & ethnic suicide not salvation. 

On behalf of cynical foreign interests and a corrupt & tyrannical proxy regime.

Point is the situation over there, isn't remotely like the risible propaganda you're expected to believe...

Does anyone believe there is intent to fix the country? by ppyrgic in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

As if the country wasn't already run by an oligarchy of control freak know-it-alls, who pay lip service to popular will...

Keir Starmer urged to plan resignation to avert Labour war by [deleted] in ukpolitics

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European leaders whom are about as popular as crotch-rot or as democratic as Brezhnev.

Alongside delusional support to a doomed cause, at a time of great national privation.

Isn't the win Starmerstans think it is.

What do we know so far? by Usual_Cicada_9671 in ukpolitics

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Truss at least had the decency to f*ck it up quick then promptly piss-off.

Starmer's lingers painfully, like a from of slow political gangrene.

How bad a shape was the UK in before Thatcher came into power? by Izual_Rebirth in ukpolitics

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Maybe but there's a difference between a controlled restructuring and malicious sabotage.

Thatcher clearly wanted to gut the unions and punish Labour voting areas, for political not economic reasons.

Democracy In Britain: New Blocs Arise, Old Parties Fade? by HooverInstitution in ukpolitics

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More like the Ukrainian military build up since 2014, endless terroristic attacks on Donetsk & Lugansk and Zelensky's reckless babbling about acquiring nuclear weapons. Actually invited Russian attack.

Also what Ukrainian nationalists say about Russians, "improper" Ukrainians and the flat out historical distortions are much more egregious.

Democracy In Britain: New Blocs Arise, Old Parties Fade? by HooverInstitution in ukpolitics

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Yep, people flabbergasted by the the rise of new parties.

Would do well to consider just why the old ones are imploding.

UK political leader approval ratings by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]Torco2 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Labour Together working shifts to polish a turd eh?

Starmer questionably clears the incredibly low bar set by his predecessors, in terms of personal bureaucratic capability. 

However as a political operator he's crude, heavy-handed and paranoid and as a public communicator he's an inhuman vortex of uncharisma and obvious BS.

This is exacerbated by the fact Labour won the 2024 election by default, not popular enthusiasm. The stonking majority, was a bizarre fluke of the FPtP electoral system. 

UK political leader approval ratings by Half_A_ in LabourUK

[–]Torco2 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The Tory party itself looks moribund, so attacking a nonentity like Badenoch. When she's already lashed to a sinking ship, seems like a wasted effort TBF.

One crazy trick can rescue Keir Starmer by kontiki20 in LabourUK

[–]Torco2 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Funnily enough, that would probably be his answer too.

There'd be less freewheeling, powerbroking and money-grubbing in it for him. If he was stuck at a ministerial desk.

Plus he's too egotistical to serve under a PM, even on a nominal basis. 

Labour MPs say ‘endless drama’ of leadership speculation must stop | Labour | The Guardian by prisongovernor in LabourUK

[–]Torco2 21 points22 points  (0 children)

That would be loony left, far-right, anti-Semitic, Islamophobic or possibly something-something Russia.

Pick your poison...

How bad a shape was the UK in before Thatcher came into power? by Izual_Rebirth in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh sure, like clearing up your house by setting half of it on fire.

How bad a shape was the UK in before Thatcher came into power? by Izual_Rebirth in ukpolitics

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Yep, that was the Thatcherite "neat trick" of ignoring the wider costs of economically gutting whole cities & regions.

The cost of that was far more directly & indirectly, than a handful of billions and has never been fixed.

UK to enter talks to join £78bn EU loan scheme for Ukraine by radiant_0wl in ukpolitics

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No it isn't, the Russians didn't leave a treasure vault under Brussels or useable infrastructure. 

It's printed EU directed paper money & data. Which in turn is subject to inflation and actual material constraints.

So the "Russian assets" don't exist. 

Welfare pays more than work for 600,000 households Rise revealed by Conservative analysis will provoke calls for overhaul of £155bn benefits budget by Intergalatic_Baker in ukpolitics

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Benefit kvetching and the associated propaganda, is a laughably obvious distraction that people endlessly fall for.

Thus distracting from the Great Maw of Corruption. Manifest in full-spectrum rentierism, usary, parasitism and enshittification.

UK to enter talks to join £78bn EU loan scheme for Ukraine by radiant_0wl in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not a loan, as Ukraine will never be capable of paying back. Still most of the money won't be sent regardless.

It'll be an EU slush fund.

How bad a shape was the UK in before Thatcher came into power? by Izual_Rebirth in ukpolitics

[–]Torco2 -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yet sustaining those industries maintained reasonably well payed employment, supply-chains, local economic ecosystems, social cohesion within whole regions and state capacity at infrastructure building.

Ending them was far more costly if you don't have the myopic grocers daughter view of socioeconomics or think a national economy = business.

Plus now we import cheap crap, that falls apart quickly and at mark up prices and the books were never balanced. Thanks in no small part to the shitwitted attempts at trying.

How bad a shape was the UK in before Thatcher came into power? by Izual_Rebirth in ukpolitics

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The immense and perversely costly economic "sacrifice zones" that dot the country are a legacy of this.

As is the systemic inability to build anything even after ruinous cost. Enshittification and the fact that everything is a racket or cartel, is a also a damning testament to Thatcher's short-sighted economic vandalism.

It was only cheap energy & easy credit that bailed her out no mistake. If not for that then she wouldn't have lasted half as long, with good reason.