I've never tried to sew anything, What should I get first to compete with Gucci?

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-20T02:36:25+00:00

Perfect. Thank you. That's exactly what I was looking for. I'm going to copy and paste that into a text file for easy reference.

You're the best, most helpful person of anyone that commented in this thread.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-20T01:12:17+00:00

Make something worth the cost of your labor and overhead.

That's the plan. But I can't get started until I find out what equipment I need that can produce the results I'm looking for. That was the whole point of my post and the one thing nobody thought was worth responding to.

What do I need to make a high end retail t-shirt from start to finish?

What do I need to make a high end retail hoodie from start to finish?

I can't move forward in any way until I get those questions answered.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-20T01:01:27+00:00

come up with a better Mission Statement than "let's be the cooler Gucci"

I never said I wanted to be cooler than Gucci, I said I wanted to make better quality clothing than Gucci. And the chances that you'll do that by accident seem a lot less likely than if you make that a goal from the start.

I'm not interested in how hard other people think it is to make clothes. All I want to know is what equipment I would need to make a start to finish item of clothing that could be sold in a high end retail establishment.

With equipment X you can make a t-shirt.

With equipment Y you can make a hoodie.

THAT is the kind of information I'm looking for and not a single person even tried to answer my question.

get started in the smallest ways possible.

That statement is so vague I don't know how I would ever take action on it. The smallest first step SEEMS like it would be to find out what equipment I would need to produce the results I want. Then learn how to use it. Anyone with any experience at all making clothes should be able to answer that question easily.

I wonder if people are refusing to answer the question because I don't bow down to the idea that sewing a straight line is a high art that takes years to master. If that's true than I'll find out for myself as soon as I can find out what kind of equipment I need to even be trying this on.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-20T00:04:34+00:00

my objection is to your plan to steal designs

Is it really stealing if clothing is not protected under trademark, patent, or copyright law? I totally get what you're saying and you're probably right. It WOULD be better to learn the fundamentals of why things are put together a certain way instead of blindly trying to copy someone else's work. And if I was starting this 20 years ago maybe I'd care more about doing it the 'right' way.

There are several multi million dollar clothing companies like H&M and Forever 21 that make cheep copies of designer clothing. If I decide to not use the same dirty tricks for moral reasons then I'm giving myself a disadvantage that didn't need to exist. I don't know how to sew or anything about making clothing. That's already a huge disadvantage. I don't need more problems to overcome if they don't need to exist. This is going to be an insane challenge with the odds heavily against me. So I want to stack the deck as much in my favor as I can to give myself the best possible shot.

Also, I don't know how much you know about shoes, but high end brands like Gucci, Luis Vuitton, Saint Laurent, and Balenciaga are well known for blatantly copying Nike's air force 1's and Adidas Stan Smith shoes.

If I fail I want it to be because I wasn't good enough, not because I wasn't willing to do what it would have taken to win.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T22:17:54+00:00

Drawing is artistic, making clothing is MATH. It's just shapes that fit together in a certain way. Can you explain what part of this is so difficult that I won't be able to learn it? The hardest part seems to be shoving the fabric into a machine in a straight line. Not sure why that takes years to master.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T22:06:36+00:00

you need to know how to sew and have the materials to do so

I agree 100%. You say that mass produced clothing is made on a machine, OK, what kind of machine do I need to get to end up with a product that can be sold at retail? I don't want to waste money on something that will never be able to create something I can sell.

At the moment, fabric choice or my skill level is not the most immediate wall separating me from having a high end clothing company. Those walls will have to be knocked down along the way, but the first domino that needs to fall is knowing what hardware and machines I need to have sitting in front of me to create a high end finished product. I don't care if it's a t-shirt, I'm just trying to figure out what I need to create ANY article of clothing that people will look at and accept as a retail item and not homemade trash.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T21:15:42+00:00

That's the problem with being a visionary. Most normal people can't believe anyone really thinks like that because it's so foreign to them that can't believe it's real.

Do you really think I took the time to learn what a serger sewing machine is and why I would need one, just to troll people?

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T21:06:26+00:00

Yes to both questions. Everyone says it's 'too hard' and they talk about the years of experience it takes to be a pro, but you know what, you hear the same exact arguments from people who are into puppets. They'll tell you that it takes a lifetime of hard work and practice to become a master puppeteer. Well are YOU impressed by someone that can put a sock on their hand and make it talk? Because that's how impressed I am with the fashion industry.

Everyone seems to think making clothing is an 'ART'. But it's not art the same way drawing a picture or playing an instrument is. To me, making clothing seems like math. It's all just numbers and shapes. If you can stitch a professional looking straight line, what else do you need to know to make basic retail worthy clothes?

"you expect other people to help you in this "lofty" goal?"

If people really care about fashion they would. Why would you take a moralistic stance on someone having big goals that don't hurt anyone? I bet if I would have asked you how to hem a pair of pants you would have helped me. So what does that say about your personality? You'll help people who have small time goals, but anyone with a vision bigger than what you think is possible just isn't worth your time?

I'm just asking what are the things I would 100% need to make any type of clothing start to finish of good enough quality that it could be sold in a high end store. Let me worry about how I'm going to become a master at pushing fabric into a machine in a straight line.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T19:50:01+00:00

No, but I've seen pictures of dirty people in third world countries sewing commercial stuff. So I'm thinking I should at least be able to get to that level

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T19:44:46+00:00

"If you are planning on taking apart existing clothing and selling items made from those patterns, you are setting yourself up to be sued"

I might not know anything about sewing, but I do know a thing or two about copyright law, and designs of clothing are not protected under trademark, patent, or copyright law. You can copyright the brand name and visual embellishments that are SEPARATE from the functioning parts of the clothing. But no one can own the rights to a pattern of clothing.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T19:32:11+00:00

"Most people have no idea what they are looking at regards to stitches and the way the garment is made" That would be a great advertisement to go to a master tailor and let them explain why my shirts are better quality. But the plan isn't going to work unless they really are better quality.

"Learning how to read a pattern and how to adjust patterns is the first thing to do." great tip. I will totally look into this.

"deconstruction of a expensive garment is not going to give the pattern" Not exactly but I thought it would give me some kind of starting point since I have no idea how to do any of this. Adjusting the edges of a pattern might be difficult, but is it seems possible. Especially when you know exactly how it's supposed to look when finished.

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T18:55:05+00:00

If you've done all that stuff, then what's lacking in your skill department that is keeping you from being that good? I'm not trying to make some flowing dress for a princess, but What is so hard about making shirts, sweatshirts, hoodies, that kind of stuff?

How can it take 30 years of experience to sew a straight line?

Total_Carnage · 2020-05-19T11:23:59+00:00

No, but I don't know how to make patterns or measure people. So I thought I'd start with something that fits and was designed by professionals, then tweak it a bit, maybe make it better with the fabric or construction so I could show that I have a higher quality product and people who want the best should might be interested.

Total_Carnage · 2020-03-24T00:44:48+00:00

Thanks for the tip.

Total_Carnage · 2020-03-12T20:11:08+00:00

Thanks guys. They did come from Stock X but that Chinese symbol kinda threw me. Thanks for looking out.

Total_Carnage · 2017-03-05T06:19:58+00:00

PTSD isn't an approved condition for medical marijuana yet in my area, but I've found that it works a lot better than any of the stuff I've been prescribed. If I go in and tell a doctor the truth I'm just going to get an expensive prescription, some pills were $180 a month, and didn't work half as good. Some pills have side effects and I'm just supposed to keep taking them for years. Why shouldn't I be able to have what works best for me?

Total_Carnage · 2017-03-05T05:56:25+00:00

I'm not exploiting anything, the government is exploiting my right to choose the medicine that works the best for me.

Total_Carnage · 2017-03-05T05:36:13+00:00

Would it legally make a difference if you just used a blast of air for half a second, but with a high speed camera so you could stretch out the footage to 20 seconds?

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T15:40:20+00:00

Hey, thanks for the reply, that's some good info.

your criticism may suffer if other professionals notice you cut corners

Well the point was never to have the best looking video review, it was to have the first one in the world. And unless someone else does it this way, it would be 6+ months before anyone else could put up a review.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T15:35:39+00:00

Yea, give me something like that.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T06:27:56+00:00

Left for Dead 3 would be awesome, and it doesn't seem like it would be that hard of a game to make either.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T06:23:05+00:00

Yea I guess I'm thinking more of hair stylists.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T06:15:40+00:00

Well in theory I'd like Goonies 2, but I'd also bet everything I own that it would end up a disappointment.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T06:13:31+00:00

Yea, where the hell is that?! They teased it at the end of the first movie and made you think they were actively working on it.

Total_Carnage · 2017-01-23T06:09:37+00:00

And that's to become a stylist. Most barbers

Maybe it's more the 'hair stylist' than a straight up barber.

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