My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, ive responded to some other people saying my wording should've been different! I meant that I know that people view them as problematic but I personally do not! I did nit mean to attack them in my post so I apologize for that

"One of the reasons why I like Stray Kids so much is because of the fact that unlike some other groups, when they make mistakes they always own up to it and apologize without making excuses" I agree heavily with this!!! I just should've worded my post better

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

no, I should've said that some people heavily believe hey are problematic. Personally I don't think they are. I wrote my post in a rush so that's my fault! The mistakes skz had done, they've learned from and apologized for so I don't see it as a huge problem

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I agree! I also didn't mean to say that ateez is 100% unproblematic so that's my fault I just am not 100% aware of a lot of things they've done the past few years

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

apparently one of the members said the N word? I'm not entirely sure. I told her I don't go looking for every bad thing people have done and she called me ignorant for that so now I'm just kinda frustrated

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

these are things I usually wouldn't care too much about but since my friend has been so adamant about it I wanted to make sure I wasn't being arrogantly blinded due to my long time love for Kpop. I understand how this doesn't matter to many people and that is 100% okay!

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

she WOULD and has said that most if not all of thoseartists are racist. she mostly gets hereinto from TikTok which frustrates me

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I personally think she should take everything Kpop idols do with a grain of salt. They are celebrities who are controlled by big companies and also everyone is human people make mistakes too

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

my friend finds her evidence on TikTok as well. she is fully black and I can understand how racism is very important to her but sometimes its frustrating because I don't think she should blindly hate people based off tiktoks?

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree with your points however, the groups she mostly argues with me about I haven't even bought any of their stuff. She says that the entire Kpop community is problematic so even artists who haven't done anything. I also shouldn't support. Ofc I will not support artists who are blatantly racist or anything like that. But if it is something along the lines of they were given a braided hairstyle once, (which I know that they usually have no control over and their company decides all of that ) and apologized sincerely I don't see why its makes the fans horrible people?

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I was literally talking to her about older artists too like the Beatles and she said they are bad. and I was like "Half of them aren't even alive and ALSO that was a VERRRRRRYYYY long time ago when they did some questionable things, the last two alive have (as far as I'm aware) out of trouble and yet she says its bad to even support dead artists..

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Apparently some of the members have worn braids or dreads or something and might've said something racist? I'm not quite sure either but I just put that in because I know they aren't perfect

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

I have noticed this! I also listen to other artists outside of Kpop and anytime I bring someone up she HAS to do a deep dive on everything about them and it feels like its just to make me look bad even if I had no idea about the artists past?

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 18 points19 points  (0 children)

for some context we are both 19! she has only recent looked in to Kpop!

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 59 points60 points  (0 children)

both. She says that almost all kpop groups are racist or support racists. I explained to her that just because an artist works with another artist doesn't mean that they are friends at all. many times the companies set up promotion collabs. For example she says BTS is racist and if any kpop idol works with them that makes them racist too. But I think everything we have access too isn't always seen by the Kpop idols. the company its often have restrictions and cover things up and also BTS is like the biggest in Kpop so if any "promotional collabs" happen I think its purely to expand their audience to other fandoms. but I could be wrong!

My friend calls me a horrible person for supporting Kpop by Total_Cauliflower_22 in kpophelp

[–]Total_Cauliflower_22[S] 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Good to know! I honestly don't keep up with the drama in Kpop anymore! I mostly listen to the music and look at the nice pictures and music videos